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    #11
    April 2009 30% cut at BT. Took me a month to find a new one, then walked...
    Blood in your poo

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      #12
      Cheers for the input; I'm not going to take a 20% reduction up the ar*e but may negotiate a smaller one - I'd ideally like to keep the contract and my current rate's not bad....

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        #13
        Originally posted by monkeyrhythm View Post
        Cheers for the input; I'm not going to take a 20% reduction up the ar*e but may negotiate a smaller one - I'd ideally like to keep the contract and my current rate's not bad....
        There is only one thing to consider

        1. can you get a better rate anywhere else? The answer to that should help you decide. Dont be confused by anything else?

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          #14
          Once bent over and agreed a 5% rate cut on renewal that the client 'suggested'. They cocked it up and I got my full rate anyhow

          Meanwhile one chap outright refused his 5% reduction, even to the point where the client was asking for a £1 reduction on his day rate. He stood firm and got his way! This taught me some lessons.

          1. Always resist rate reductions. Set yourself apart, have a quiet word with the boss, be the 'special' one. Sod friends and colleagues!

          2. Frame rate reductions in £ not %. £75 sounds a lot more than 15%.

          3. Remember that every £5 lost or gained on your day rate is over £1100 per annum.

          4. Always have an implicit threat of walking, but don't actually ever walk.

          5. Turn up late in a smart suit one morning, for no reason.

          6. Everything is business. Don't take things personally.
          Cats are evil.

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            #15
            Originally posted by swamp View Post
            5. Turn up late in a smart suit one morning, for no reason.
            interview outfit right? Doesn't work if you work in the city though.... pin-stripes every day

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              #16
              Originally posted by swamp View Post
              4. Always have an implicit threat of walking, but don't actually ever walk.
              Unless you have something to walk into of course. I was offered a 30% rate cut once, I found something else that was only 20% down on what I had been getting so I walked. Even when the client took me aside and said "well, you don't really have to take the cut". **** em, it was worth it IMO.
              While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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                #17
                Originally posted by doodab View Post
                Unless you have something to walk into of course. I was offered a 30% rate cut once, I found something else that was only 20% down on what I had been getting so I walked. Even when the client took me aside and said "well, you don't really have to take the cut". **** em, it was worth it IMO.
                Funniest thing I've read in ages

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                  #18
                  Managed to get a 10% increase on the last contract and another 22% jump when I moved to current gig.

                  As others have said if I was forced to take a cut I'd hold my tongue and start looking immediately. Not a problem over here right now but I know just finding a gig is more of an issue over there in a lot of markets.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by gadgetman View Post
                    ....and start looking immediately
                    That only works if you have a termination clause on your side of the contract. That isn't always the case.

                    Not having a termination clause can look good from an IR35 point of view - you'd never have an employee stitched into something they couldn't get out of.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Wanderer View Post
                      Mid contract? That's a bit rude isn't it. I presume that means we're free to go job hunting mid contract and demand rate increases in the good times.
                      Yep, sounds like a barcrap tactic. Did this when I was working at Rabroke Hall in Knutsford. 4 weeks into a new contract when I was told at extension negotiations that there wouldnt be one where I was working. Told them I'd negotiate at the next renewal but not seeing as we'd just negotiated the renewal.

                      Spring wouldnt do anything so I told them to shove it.

                      Wont ever work for Barcrap again the bunch of *unts and my regular agents know not to contact me with any roles from them.
                      I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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