Exclusion Clause - How tight are they?

[hyperD]

Doesn't the word 'GCSE' give it away?

Ah, yes. No, hang on a minute, we had O-Levels and CSE's - yes, quick google and you are right, oh hopperish one.

GCSE's were announce in 1984 and then sat in 1988. After then the pass rate went up from 26% to 45% within 10 years. Extrapolating that curve means teleport technology will become reality in 2 years time by a girl from Essex next year... woohoo! Essex girls!

[IT contract agent]

am less than 30 - but sure you had the option of doing 5 A-levels a good few years before I did mine

Yeah can do 5 a-levels (1 of mine is general studies though)

[Mailman]

Re my education - I've 11 GCSEs all A and B....5 A-Levels...a Bsc...and an Msc...

Given you went through the English eduction system the above doesnt really mean a anything!

Mailman

[Mailman]

Alah christ...what the hells going on here? A post from dodgy thats actually quite good!

The problem with a lot of agencies is that they have become so hung up on process etc etc that they no longer build the relationships with the clients and contractors. Everything is done from behind a desk so these people become obsessed with control and minimising admin work in order to improve productivity.

My last agents were MSB and the guy I was going through was actually an ok chap. He at least took the time to call to see how things were going and called around the office every now and then.

The bugger even had the gonads to call my manager in the states about contract extensions (I know because my manager would call to tell me the geezer had called him about this) which in my books means an agent who is actually worth having on your books.

Dodgy, come on, name and shame the people you work for

Mailman

[IT contract agent]

agree with you mailman - re English education system.

Know many old MSB guys - most of them decent guys also. Believe MSB have issued profit warnings and closed a good few of their offices recently

I'm all for looking after contractors! I'm all for shouting my guys a lunch or a bottle of champagne when they start working and always in touch with them.

Just had a look over your CV mailman

[Mailman]

agree with you mailman - re English education system.

I shouldnt get too ugly on the english education system because some of the things they do are actually quite good. Its just the bad far out weighs the good!

Just had a look over your CV mailman

Christ, is that some kind of threat?

Mailman

[BillHicksRIP]

Never had so much as a phonecall or Xmas card from my agent, never mind bloody champagne. 2 years of commission out of me so far too.

[VectraMan]

Re: "Supply services"

Legally it's very clear. It anything which isn't goods. (or is it the supply bit that that you have a problem with)

My point was that "services" goes beyond the same service as specified in the contract. If you did an onsite IT contract, then gave it up and became a window cleaner and happened to clean your old client's windows, then technically the agency would still be entitled to a cut. I can't imagine a court would think that would be reasonable. But what if you gave up contracting, and became a full time employee of another company that provided IT services to your old client? Again, the agency would be entitled to a cut, and your new employer could lose the client's business because of the extra cost.

I'm not a tyrant trying it on BTW, just interested in how these things work.

[Mailman]

Re: "Supply services"My point was that "services" goes beyond the same service as specified in the contract. If you did an onsite IT contract, then gave it up and became a window cleaner and happened to clean your old client's windows, then technically the agency would still be entitled to a cut. I can't imagine a court would think that would be reasonable. But what if you gave up contracting, and became a full time employee of another company that provided IT services to your old client? Again, the agency would be entitled to a cut, and your new employer could lose the client's business because of the extra cost.

It all comes down to how clearly the clause is written. If it just says you cannot work for the client then the clause is about as enforceable as AtW's super app is real.

Mailman

[boredsenseless]

It all comes down to how clearly the clause is written. If it just says you cannot work for the client then the clause is about as enforceable as AtW's super app is real.

Mailman

Oh come on at least the clause is actually typed in ink!