How to outmanoeuvre during contract extension..??

[JoJoGabor]

I dont get this. What percentage of the clients rate do you expect to get? A typical consultancy day rate is say £1000. A permie consultant could expect to get between £200 and £250 of that. A contractor may get up to £500. If there are 3 companies in between that they are all taking a slice for their overheads.

I dont think its the same comparison to an individual contractor negotiating with an agent. The consultancy have done all the hard work training their consultants, paying for salesmen to win the business. You're just providing the end service here.

[Wanderer]

I dont get this. What percentage of the clients rate do you expect to get? A typical consultancy day rate is say £1000. A permie consultant could expect to get between £200 and £250 of that. A contractor may get up to £500.

I would try and go direct and settle for 800/day. That way everyone is happy (except the middlemen - bad luck guys!)

[Pogle]

I'm in a similar position.

Hate to say it but we don't actually have any bargaining power.

Ask nicely - they'll laugh.

Threaten to walk - they'll say "walk". There are hundreds of replacements out there just snapping at your heels. Like me, you haven't been there long enough to be valuable enough.

The only choice we have is between whether it's better to stay, for the good of your CV, or go, and risk being out of work again for months.

I'm staying for now .............. but still looking.

Yep I was in a similar position last year, I was working in London, on one of my lowest rates ever and knew the agency were taking the pish - cos they could and i was desperate. At extension time the client said they only wanted me (- which was nice), and whilst they understood my unhappiness at my rate, did not want to get involved with making the agency increase it.
Basically one senior manager didn't want the hassle - fair enough.

so I told the agency I was going. The agent i was dealing with said they'd see what they could do, but her boss got in touch and said - no way jose. Take it or leave it!
In the end I had to shut up and put up. But I will never entertain working with that agency again and I kept my clientco manager up to date on what was going on, he was appalled by the agency's tactics and said they would never use them again.

I enjoyed the contract though and met some great people

[The Wikir Man]

But I will never entertain working with that agency again until the next time they turn up with a decent rate and I take it

FTFY - you know that if they turned round with a decent rate and project, you'd take them up on it. Same way that agencies threaten a "black list" occasionally and then send you an email 2 weeks later with a new project.

[Darren_Test]

Update....

Client informed me they are renewing my contract, But no information from my outsourcer yet...!! I am not contacting them as I feel I will loose upperhand if I contact them & ask for renewed contract.