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Contract 250/day vs Perm 50k

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    #11
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    If you don't have major personal issues with being an employee, I'd recommend the perm job. 50k ain't at all bad, and I would struggle to ever take work which required a 90min commute (assuming you mean 90min there, 90min back).
    I agree.

    I also agree that £50k isn't roughly equivalent to £500, more like £250.

    There are other plus sides to the permie role compared to a sub £300 day rate that you're no doubt aware of.

    If faced with the same choice myself, despite being a contractor for so long, I'd take the permie gig.

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      #12
      Permie job. Assume "normal" benefit package. This will then produce about 36k net income in a year for 210 days work. you will also have (depending on package) probably about 5k in pension contributions from the employer and have "enjoyed" benefits of approximately 1500 in heath care and life insurance.

      Now, lets do 210 days contract. You will be billing 52,500. Assume that all the beneifts are of zero worth to you. Assume outside IR35, assume income splitting. Then with a bit of luck you might retain about 42k.

      If you want to put youself in the same position (which may or may not be valid depending on the viewpoint of the OP) then you might just be able to do it from the contract. With accountancy and insurance costs of nil of course.

      Both roles will of course have some cost of income associated with them. Train fare, lunches etc. Some at least of these are claimable if taking the contract. So this may make the balance move a little towards the contract - or at least make equilibrium easier to find.

      If the only motivation between the roles is available spending power it seems the best one can hope for is the contact ends up equal. Inside IR35 it would be a disaster zone.

      Now look at the travel time. The contract extends the working day by about 20%. So the best available from the contract is, effectively, to work 20% harder for the same money.

      I realise money is not the only motivator. Opportunitiies it opens up might be. The permy role is finance based. The contract health. Which one is better to be into? Don't really know, but living in a nominally capitalist economy the financial role is at the whim of business. Health at the whim of government. Think that might be a hard choice.

      For me, the permy job looks like a no brainer. Sorry, buit on those number thats the way it is. The only justification for taking the contact is wanting to remain outside permiedom (that of course could easily be compelling).

      If the contract was a more realistic 350 per day the choice would be much harder.

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        #13
        Completely concur with this, and I don't frankly 'get' the hourly rate * 1000 comparison. Ive worked for 30k odd permie and 250/day, I made around double after tax and 'benefits' with the contract.

        Something else to bear in mind, for 250 a day contract you wouldn't be expecting to do much work at all, for 50k permie they'd be all over you cracking the whip.

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          #14
          If it helps I was on a 60K package with a 10% pension and a 20% bonus at a financial institution and I ve given this up to do contracting at 400 per day.

          Yes its a bit more then what you are earning, but a lot less then what others are asking for.

          If I was you I would take the contract every time.

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            #15
            Originally posted by joey122 View Post
            If it helps I was on a 60K package with a 10% pension and a 20% bonus at a financial institution and I ve given this up to do contracting at 400 per day.

            Yes its a bit more then what you are earning, but a lot less then what others are asking for.

            If I was you I would take the contract every time.
            WHS - I previously have been offered a permanent job at a salary the same as my turnover but turned it down to contract. Salary + perks would be greater than my turnover - but I prefer to be my own man.

            My last permie job package was greater than my current turnover and I chose voluntary redundancy to go contracting.

            Employers seem to want you to work 60 hour weeks these days and its written in the contract of employment to do the hours to meet business needs so you can't say know I need the weekend off. As a contractor I don't get that and can't get pushed into it (and if I do choose to do longer hours then I know that I will get paid by the hour).

            But then I have been lucky to have continuous work since I started back on the game 2 years ago.

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              #16
              I can understand someone who hasnt had a contract for 6 months or more considering permie. Me? I wouldnt touch it with a barge pole.
              I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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                #17

                Touch it with a barge pole
                Touch what? Perm work?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SteveMcadden1 View Post
                  Touch what? Perm work?
                  No, a barge pole.

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