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    #11
    To summarise then, you have no negotiating points beyond what has already been said:
    • Have a backup gig lined up
    • Be prepared to be on the bench


    Not knowing what you do, I would say the presentation would be a waste of time. But do it anyway and let us know how you get on.

    Incidentally, my 'strategy' has always been to negotiate with the agent, not the client. Then, you can also negotiate their margin...
    Older and ...well, just older!!

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      #12
      Originally posted by ratewhore View Post
      Incidentally, my 'strategy' has always been to negotiate with the agent, not the client. Then, you can also negotiate their margin...
      Passable strategy, though prefer mine, negotiate rate with client first then agent on margin, gives me extra leverage to have done his work for him already.

      Plus never known to agent who was any good at negotiating rate increases (and don't really blame them, they don't generally have enough inside knowledge of client situation and how needed I am, while I do)

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        #13
        Try telling the client that your preferred way of working is to stay until the project/work is completed and that this is what you'd like to do.

        Advise them that you sometimes/often get calls about other roles, but don't like to look elsewhere while you're in contract.

        Then raise the concern that the rate that they are proposing is jeopardising this position. Tell them that you are concerned that the poor rate will make it more likely that you may have to look at other roles and maybe leave at a timing that is less convenient to them.

        How you couch this depends greatly on how you get on with your line manager. If you are really valued then most will do what they can to keep you on board. If you misread this then all you're doing is giving them a heads up to find someone else to replace you at a time that suits them.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Not So Wise View Post
          Passable strategy, though prefer mine, negotiate rate with client first then agent on margin, gives me extra leverage to have done his work for him already.

          Plus never known to agent who was any good at negotiating rate increases (and don't really blame them, they don't generally have enough inside knowledge of client situation and how needed I am, while I do)
          Fair one, each to their own, more than one way to skin a cat, etc etc.

          I feel that, because I have no direct contractual relationship with the end client, that's not the right vehicle for my negotiations.

          Passable it may be, but it's done me right for many years so far. As I've always been able to increase my rate, I'll stick to it I think...
          Older and ...well, just older!!

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            #15
            All great advice and thanks for that.

            My final question is:

            If I do embark on re-negotiation and I does not yield the increase that I perceive to be fair, do I

            A: Set T&Cs to be 1 month rolling with 1 week notice (so I can leave when I find another position)
            B: Stick with the 1 month, look for a new position and then jump when I find one (within the terms of the contract)


            Thanks all
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              #16
              Originally posted by BlackenedBiker View Post
              All great advice and thanks for that.

              My final question is:

              If I do embark on re-negotiation and I does not yield the increase that I perceive to be fair, do I

              A: Set T&Cs to be 1 month rolling with 1 week notice (so I can leave when I find another position)
              B: Stick with the 1 month, look for a new position and then jump when I find one (within the terms of the contract)


              Thanks all
              It's your contract, your client, and only you know the contextual intracacies of the relationships involved.

              ergo, you're the only one who can make that call...
              Older and ...well, just older!!

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