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Agency removed from preferred supplier list - advice needed

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    #11
    Originally posted by rootsnall
    You need to look at the contract between the bank and the agency, after 4 years the buy out figure should be pretty low. On a long contract I did it was down to 3 months commission to the agent. It'll still need some negotiating as somebody will have to shell out 3 months commission up front if you go down that route. If you are deemed to be 'opted in' I think the agency still has you tied up for 8 weeks, so effectivley that route would cost 8 weeks commission to buy out the agent.

    Alternatively, after 4 years its time for a change !
    You may well be opted-in (or is that out I never really know), but the client and agency probably have a different B2B contract that includes clauses restricting the client appointing staff from the agency, and this isn't covered under the Act as far as i know

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      #12
      Originally posted by boredsenseless
      You may well be opted-in (or is that out I never really know), but the client and agency probably have a different B2B contract that includes clauses restricting the client appointing staff from the agency, and this isn't covered under the Act as far as i know
      If that is the case then the risk lies with the client, not the contractor, as stated previously. If the client is willing to accept that risk then fill yer boots...

      Older and ...well, just older!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by boredsenseless
        You may well be opted-in (or is that out I never really know), but the client and agency probably have a different B2B contract that includes clauses restricting the client appointing staff from the agency, and this isn't covered under the Act as far as i know
        Not an expert but pretty sure the agency can't restrict you with an agreement between itself and the client if this contravenes the regs. There would not be any point in the regs if they could !

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          #14
          Hello,

          Thanks very much to everyone who kindly took the time to post replies to my enquiry.

          I thought some extra information may help generate some additional replies:

          1) I spoke to Supplier Management at the bank. They told me that they had conducted a review of their suppliers and they now regard the agency as "being too small to be able to help them fill positions". This is their reason as to why the bank are not continuing their contract with the agency after 31 March.

          2) The bank are indeed happy for me contract directly with them.

          3) The bank do not wish to discuss with me any aspect of the contract they have with the agency, other than to say that it ceases on 31 March.

          4) The bank said that they will not enter into any negotiations with the agency for any sort of 'payoff' or margin. Once the agency/bank contract ceases on 31 March, that's it as far as the bank are concerned. Either I contract directly or they use someone from a preferred supplier.

          5) The agency told me they haven't received any official letter from the bank stating that the bank/agency contract is to cease on March 31. The agency's legal people are looking at their agency/bank contract to see if it is a fixed-ended or rolling contract.

          I get the impression that the agency are desperately trying to ensure they continue to get some margin from me for at least another 12 months.

          I'd heard of some Restrictive/Unfair Contract Act, does anyone have any more info on this?

          I thought that the 12 month clause was primarily there to prevent poaching by clients, providing there was still an existing contract between the agency and the end client. If, as in my case, there is no contract between the agency and the client, what happens then? Can I be sued by the agency if I go direct?

          Once again, my thanks for all useful replies.

          Regards
          PM

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            #15
            I would just reiterate what I said earlier. The bank is obviously happy to take you on and that any reference to poaching in their contract with the agency is not a worry to them. It certainly shouldn't be a worry to you as you are not party to those contractual items.

            In terms of your contract with the agency, cleverer people than me have already stated what this means in terms of the agency regulations.

            If it was me, I would be contracting direct although do bear in mind they may put you on 90 day payment terms...

            Older and ...well, just older!!

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              #16
              Hello,

              Thank you ratewhore for your kind posts.

              My apologies if I wasn't clear. The contract between the agency and the bank is not really the issue. I'm only concerned about the contract that I currently have with the agency: this particular contract has the '12 month no direct contract' clause.

              So my question is: Should this clause still apply to me, if the agency no longer has a contract with the bank?

              Thanks again in advance for all useful posts.

              Regards
              PM

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                #17
                Originally posted by jh0711
                interesting - I have spokent to a number of pimps who say that regardless of EAA regulations they have a contract with the end client and if that says you cannot work for them for a certain period after the contract ends the pimps feel this would be upheld by a court of law.

                me I think not - EAA forms part of employment laws and regulations - the contract between agency and end client is not part of employment law/regualtions so if it goes to court it will be employment law v contract law

                anyone wanna guess who would win?
                The new agency regulations make these clauses void as well.

                tim

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boredsenseless
                  You may well be opted-in (or is that out I never really know), but the client and agency probably have a different B2B contract that includes clauses restricting the client appointing staff from the agency, and this isn't covered under the Act as far as i know
                  http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Sr/sr2005/20050395.htm#10

                  tim

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                    #19
                    It would be interesting for an agency to inforce that clause. Effectively the clause invoked is to cover the agency for loss of revenue.

                    The fact they won't get any because they have lost their contract and with the new regulations means that the clause will become null and void.

                    The agency will obviously threaten you IMHO. Call their bluff.
                    What happens in General, stays in General.
                    You know what they say about assumptions!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by pmetcalfe
                      Hello,

                      Can anyone please give me some advice on an unusual contract situation? Apologies for being a bit longwinded.

                      I work at a bank through an agency, who have 'preferred supplier' status conferred by the bank. I originally had a 100 day contract with the agency, and this has been extended to a one month rolling one. I've been working at the bank through the agency for over four years.

                      Last Wednesday 7th March, my manager told me that the bank's Supplier Management department had removed the agency's preferred supplier status. The contract between the bank and the agency was only up to 31 March, after which time it ceases and will not be renewed. I spoke to the Supplier Management department and they confirmed this.
                      Is it LloydsTSB & CP?
                      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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