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Originally posted by SussexSeagull View PostYou might well be right but I grow a bit cynical of talking to agents who have roles that are perfect for you then you never hear f on again.
Originally posted by SussexSeagull View PostI am coming to the conclusion that for my skill set (and this may be different for others) a combination of offshoring and market saturation caused by a lot of Visas being given out a few years back for people who now have leave to remain and a lot of ex-permanent people having a go has killed the market.
It is going to take a painful adjustment to change that.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostIf they've got a role, find out who the client is asap in the conversation. If they're not willing to tell you then there isn't a role and they're fishing. If you've been benched for a while, in their eyes you'll be more desperate and more likely to take the bait.
Test management seems to be a better option than test analyst these days. I've seen a lot of the gruntwork off-shored.
She is ISEB qualified, has passed Prince 2 to a certain level, managed large teams on and off shore, has to have a good understanding of the technologies of each project, 9 years experience, some as consultant, some as contractor doing it.
Whilst on the bench helping launch and market some start up test management software off her own back.
Recently one of the very main reasons, she landed a very good role, despite all the other things, was the start up test management software role she took on whilst on the bench.The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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Originally posted by SussexSeagull View PostYou might well be right but I grow a bit cynical of talking to agents who have roles that are perfect for you then you never hear f on again."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostIf they've got a role, find out who the client is asap in the conversation. If they're not willing to tell you then there isn't a role and they're fishing. If you've been benched for a while, in their eyes you'll be more desperate and more likely to take the bait.
Test management seems to be a better option than test analyst these days. I've seen a lot of the gruntwork off-shored.
I agree about the offshoring. I suspect the era when contractors were the main resource for the development and testing of large projects and programmes has passed.Comment
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Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostTrue, but they expect quite a lot for the well paying roles, as you know LM my Mrs is a contract test manager.
She is ISEB qualified, has passed Prince 2 to a certain level, managed large teams on and off shore, has to have a good understanding of the technologies of each project, 9 years experience, some as consultant, some as contractor doing it.
Whilst on the bench helping launch and market some start up test management software off her own back.
Recently one of the very main reasons, she landed a very good role, despite all the other things, was the start up test management software role she took on whilst on the bench.
Originally posted by SussexSeagull View PostFunnily enough I haven't had that many agents launch fishing exercises this time round, which reminds me a bit of the last slump in 08/09 when the recruitment industry seemed to go into hibernation for a few months.
I agree about the offshoring. I suspect the era when contractors were the main resource for the development and testing of large projects and programmes has passed.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostYep, part of the reasoning behind my post in addition to the Yorkshire chap we both know. Not comparing the two of them, more that test manager, if you've got the skills and quals, seems like something that can run and run over here with the right clients.The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostVery true and as in everything else you get "Test Managers" and Test ManagersComment
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Originally posted by barrydidit View PostAnd very occasionally one finds a Test Mangler. And then you know about it, let me tell you.The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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Originally posted by barrydidit View PostAnd very occasionally one finds a Test Mangler. And then you know about it, let me tell you.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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