Substitution clause

[SueEllen]

OK. Prob been discussed before but how many of you have actually sent in a sub?

Or even think their client would allow it?

People always think of subs as someone from the outside but the subs I have seen have been:
1. People doing a job share - a husband and wife who were from the beginning sharing the same PM roles.
2. Contractors who work part-time for a client doing the same area of work covering for each other when they went on holiday etc.

Also if you know someone who worked there before and left on good terms then they can come in and be the sub.

Even with consultancies and other large outsourcers holding large contracts, clients who aren't stupid put clauses in the contract meaning that any worker that is replaced by another has to be trained to have basic knowledge of their systems and the work at that consultancy's time and expense. In fact I knew of one client where it wanted a list of the consultancy's workers on their project, and the only way they got of that client's project was to leave the consultancy.

[JoJoGabor]

Some firends and I have been discussing this recently and we are suggesting getting each other in for a day, supervised by the actual consultant and paying a day, jsut to ward off IR35. For the sake of 1 day's income, I think its a good exercise to do. Supervising them ensures the client can't really complain at it

[jamesbrown]

Some firends and I have been discussing this recently and we are suggesting getting each other in for a day, supervised by the actual consultant and paying a day, jsut to ward off IR35. For the sake of 1 day's income, I think its a good exercise to do. Supervising them ensures the client can't really complain at it

I can't see how that would "ward off" anything. Under investigation, HMRC would likely expose such a relationship as a sham, if that's what it was. "Oh yeah, I got my mate Dave to sub for me this one time." Having your contract backed up by working practices doesn't mean checking a few boxes and calling it good.

[pacharan]

I can't see how that would "ward off" anything. Under investigation, HMRC would likely expose such a relationship as a sham, if that's what it was. "Oh yeah, I got my mate Dave to sub for me this one time." Having your contract backed up by working practices doesn't mean checking a few boxes and calling it good.

Oooh! 'Ark at her!

[jamesbrown]

Oooh! 'Ark at her!

Handbags at dawn.