contractor rights

[BolshieBastard]

I dont believe anyone, contractor or permie, should have to put up with a bully at work. That said, there are always two sides to a story.

But as with all these things, if you are going to take anyone on in a work situation, you need evidence to prove your point. Just complaining will get you, well, terminated.

As others have said, its best to bite the bullet and leave. You could if you wish speak to your client's HR Dept and explain, you are leaving and why you wont work with them against in view of the alleged bullying and their decision to terminate you. You could ask what their bullying policy is and ask why it wasnt followed in this instance.

Despite what many people say, many client do see and treat us as employees and if that's the case, they should follow these procedures when need arises.

As I said though, I think there is more to your story than meets the eye.

[SussexSeagull]

Isn't racial abuse potentially a Police matter?

[kingcook]

Isn't racial abuse potentially a Police matter?

Racial abuse is a police matter.

[TheFaQQer]

Racial abuse is a police matter.

Tell that to Patrice Evra and Luis Suarez.

[kingcook]

Tell that to Patrice Evra and Luis Suarez.

[wim121]

Isn't racial abuse potentially a Police matter?

Racial abuse is a police matter.

Kind of. Yes it is a police matter but the fuzz vary on degrees of uselessness. However in the workplace, it should be dealt with by management.

If all of the abuse has been verbal and the company protects and condones this behaviour, it could be hard to prove in court. Even if it has been recorded, it may be inadmissible evidence if others werent aware of recordings.

This could also backfire in a bigger manner, as the client and the abuser working for the client knows who you are. If you do call the police, they will probably only give him a caution. That just stokes the fire further, forget it.

Who in their right might doesn't find that funny? Lighten up and move on.

Hardly professional is it? Who doesnt enjoy a curry shart joke for instance, just like in another thread on here at the moment? The point is, I wouldnt walk in to a client co. and discuss with other colleagues the funny aspects of sharting.

Work is work. Yes you can have a chat, possibly a giggle, but keep the lewd drawings, disgusting stories, sex life anecdotes, etc, to the pub afterwards.

I am sorry but I seriously cannot believe that any company would let a contractor get away with this. A slightly tall story possibly? Either way he will get his just rewards at some point.

You are a contractor I am afraid. Stiring the waters will come back on you. We cannot cause a fuss like permies can. If it was so bad you couldn't continue the work then I guess I might also have raised it but always with a heavy heart knowing I would be stuck between a rock and a hard place in the end

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Agree with everything you wrote, which is very rare, well done for such good advice there

Playing captain hindsight, at the most, I would have had a "chat" with the colleague off to the side and make them aware I wouldnt tolerate their behaviour, or at the very most, inform a supervisor I know well but ask them to be vigilant but not act or antagonise on the situation. However going to management often isnt even a great idea for a permie let alone a contractor. All that happens is the person gets warned and then that person becomes furious that he "has been told on".

[kingcook]

Playing captain hindsight, at the most, I would have had a "chat" with the colleague off to the side and make them aware I wouldnt tolerate their behaviour

WWS.

Maybe the guy doesn't realise he's a total arsehole and needs to be told. I do find it hard to believe the whole story. There's always 3 sides to every story though.

[SueEllen]

Who in their right might doesn't find that funny? Lighten up and move on.

There is a time and a place for everything and at the client site isn't one of them.

[sbakoola]

Kind of. Yes it is a police matter but the fuzz vary on degrees of uselessness. However in the workplace, it should be dealt with by management.

If all of the abuse has been verbal and the company protects and condones this behaviour, it could be hard to prove in court. Even if it has been recorded, it may be inadmissible evidence if others werent aware of recordings.

I've never fully understood why recording people saying things that are plainly illegal are 'not admissible' in court or for prosecution. If a guy down a high street on a friday night gets caught on CCTV committing violent acts how can that not be taken to be evidence that can be used against him, if he spoke to his friend and told him that he was going to murder someone in graphic detail and give reasons for doing so how could that not be classified as 'not admissible' evidence for planned / conspiring to murder. This country is protecting liars. This country is protecting those who are corrupt.

[wim121]

I've never fully understood why recording people saying things that are plainly illegal are 'not admissible' in court or for prosecution. If a guy down a high street on a friday night gets caught on CCTV committing violent acts how can that not be taken to be evidence that can be used against him, if he spoke to his friend and told him that he was going to murder someone in graphic detail and give reasons for doing so how could that not be classified as 'not admissible' evidence for planned / conspiring to murder. This country is protecting liars. This country is protecting those who are corrupt.

Yea, I know someone who had his car vandalised on his driveway and he caught it on his own CCTV system. Upshot is, in court, the evidence was ruled as inadmissible as he didnt display cctv stickers outside his property.

The police/cps dont care about justice or individuals either, they care about targets. They have targets on arrests/convictions for certain crimes making the essence of justice a laughable notion.

There isnt any such notion as justice, especially for victims as ambiguity favours those who contest it. If you have the money to get a decent enough lawyer or can be argued that your rights have been somehow violated, then you can get off almost any charge.

Even, if you do face prison, in the overheard words (of a convo on the bus the OH heard the other day), "gahh community service sucks. I hate having to do work. Why couldnt they send me to prison instead where I dont have to do anything?"




Anyway I feel we're going wildly off topic and I dont want to anger the mods any more than usual .....