BN66 - Round 2 (Court of Appeal)

[smalldog]

as if we didnt already know this...nice to hear it from someone else...

BBC News - Six million people in UK have overpaid or underpaid tax

George Mudie, a Labour MP and member of the Treasury Select Committee, told the BBC he believed there was a case for waiving the debt owed by those who had underpaid.

He said he believed the HMRC had handled the situation badly and unfairly.

He described the HMRC as a "heartless" and "arrogant" organisation and said: "If they want money, they take the money and very rarely are they prepared to consider, even when they make mistakes, not taking the money."

[normalbloke]

BBC News - Six million people in UK have overpaid or underpaid tax

George Mudie, a Labour MP and member of the Treasury Select Committee, told the BBC he believed there was a case for waiving the debt owed by those who had underpaid.

He said he believed the HMRC had handled the situation badly and unfairly.

He described the HMRC as a "heartless" and "arrogant" organisation and said: "If they want money, they take the money and very rarely are they prepared to consider, even when they make mistakes, not taking the money."

All very well now he's in opposition of course. Didn't hear him shouting when he was in more of a position to actually do something about it.

[silver_lining]

Maybe Judge Parker is a middle aged judge masquerading as a twat.

Is a Twat someone who tweets ? I am so out of touch with the terminology these days....

[smalldog]

All very well now he's in opposition of course. Didn't hear him shouting when he was in more of a position to actually do something about it.

isnt it amazing the difference day makes....i.e. election day. cunch of bunts, all of em...if I even tried to play these childlike games in my work i'd b out of there, how do they do it!!!

[TAF4]

Is a Twat someone who tweets ? I am so out of touch with the terminology these days....

Yes.
Now FaceBook - that's for PghukWhits.

[TAF4]

isnt it amazing the difference day makes....i.e. election day. cunch of bunts, all of em.

In opposition they are free to state the truth and point out incompetence and corruption wherever they see it (in others ).
In Government they toe the party line and avoid all responsibility in case they are held accountable - it is Public Service after all.

What a crap system!!

[portseven]

BBC News - Six million people in UK have overpaid or underpaid tax

George Mudie, a Labour MP and member of the Treasury Select Committee, told the BBC he believed there was a case for waiving the debt owed by those who had underpaid.

He said he believed the HMRC had handled the situation badly and unfairly.

He described the HMRC as a "heartless" and "arrogant" organisation and said: "If they want money, they take the money and very rarely are they prepared to consider, even when they make mistakes, not taking the money."

Could this be considered retrospective taxation? They requested and collected X amount of Tax, then they have realised they actually meant to collect Y amount of Tax

[smalldog]

Could this be considered retrospective taxation? They requested and collected X amount of Tax, then they have realised they actually meant to collect Y amount of Tax

doesnt it also imply they are opening up peoples tax returns (for those that do them) which had up until now been accepted? So yes, it does very much sound like it to me.

[PlaneSailing]

doesnt it also imply they are opening up peoples tax returns (for those that do them) which had up until now been accepted? So yes, it does very much sound like it to me.

I agree. And interestingly the HMRC have the right to waive owed tax :

HM Revenue & Customs: HMRC delays in using information

And according to their own guidelines, this can be done if:


-HMRC failed to make proper use of more than one piece of information received about a source of income

-HMRC allowed tax arrears to build up over two whole tax years in succession – so at least two tax year underpayments are due

There has been no evidence at all the HMRC used the information in our tax returns for seven whole years.
If anyone from the HMRC is reading this, then feel free to contradict. FOI certainly didn't bring anything up.

So perhaps it might be worth speaking to Mr Gauke again saying that he can avoid the expense of litigation
and just follow his new 'friends ' own rules to STOP THIS OUTRAGE NOW.

[smalldog]

I agree. And interestingly the HMRC have the right to waive owed tax :

HM Revenue & Customs: HMRC delays in using information

And according to their own guidelines, this can be done if:


-HMRC failed to make proper use of more than one piece of information received about a source of income

-HMRC allowed tax arrears to build up over two whole tax years in succession – so at least two tax year underpayments are due

There has been no evidence at all the HMRC used the information in our tax returns for seven whole years.
If anyone from the HMRC is reading this, then feel free to contradict. FOI certainly didn't bring anything up.

So perhaps it might be worth speaking to Mr Gauke again saying that he can avoid the expense of litigation
and just follow his new 'friends ' own rules to STOP THIS OUTRAGE NOW.

So you mean to tell me they could if they wanted to stop this at their discretion!! I thought they were duty bound to pursue this