E101

[wurzel]

It took me months to get the certificate back from Newcastle.

So even if you had applied for it in time depending on the length of your contract you could be back in the UK before you get the certificate.

Edited to say: From the sounds of it they sound like a department where only a few people deal with the forms and if the particular person dealing with yours goes off sick/on maternity leave then your paperwork doesn't get dealt with.

I never actually got the E101. I filled in the form & submitted it but never got a reply. Fortunately, a photocopy of the application form was enough to keep the agency happy & they refrained from cancelling my contract.

[balajo]

You can get one without reaching the minimum nic threshold.
I got one then found I didn't need it in the end.

Why didin't you need it? And for what country where you using it for?

[SueEllen]

Why didin't you need it?

Because I returned to the UK within a reasonable timeframe so my tax affairs stayed totally and legally UK based.

It pays to check out tax affairs properly before going abroad.

And no I'm not telling you where I went as I have met some people on these forums and they don't know it's me.

[balajo]

Because I returned to the UK within a reasonable timeframe so my tax affairs stayed totally and legally UK based.

It pays to check out tax affairs properly before going abroad.

And no I'm not telling you where I went as I have met some people on these forums and they don't know it's me.

Ok not sure why that makes a difference, not really interested in where you went either. I'm getting conflicting info wrt the S1 and its implication to unemployment if you use the s1 certificate so I just want to get some guidance on that.

[naijamanuk]

The E101 is applied for on behalf of the Employer for the Employee. If you work through your own Ltd Co, that (as ever) is your employer; and recognising that position has no IR35 implications.

The E101 proves to a client in another country that some entity (your Ltd Co) is actually paying NICs, so they will not be held responsible for paying your social contributions.

You, representing your Ltd Co, have to fill in 2 forms: a CA3821 for the Ltd Co, to get it approved to be able to apply for E101s for its employees; and a CA3822 for the employee.

You find them online, download PDF, fill in, and post. A CA3822 sent with the CA3821 will be processed at the same time (you don't have to wait for approval).

The CA3821 (for the Company) asks for the Company UTR (Universal Taxpayer Reference) and insists that this must be completed. In fact if your Ltd Co does not deal with the CIS scheme, it won't have a UTR and you leave that bit blank.

The CA3822 (for the employee) requires you to state the address in the other country where the work will be performed. If you don't fill that in, they will send the form back to you.

How do I know all this. Grrrr. Don't ask. It has just taken me over 2 months.

BTW, IMHO the government is out of order here: the E101 testifies that some company is paying your NICs. If that assertion is true, ISTM that you have a right to obtain an E101, without need to specify for example where if anywhere the work if any is to be done. But that's government: we work for them.

Thanks TF!!
Answered most of my questions fully!
A few others if you dont mind..
How long did it take for the certificate to arrive?
Also I only just opened my company - October 2012 and i have started working abroad since december. Will this be a problem?
Cheers