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BN66 - the road to Judicial Review

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    My reflections

    I would like to share with you some of my reflections on the proceedings.

    Firstly, it was great to finally meet up with some of the people off the forum and put faces to the various characters.

    Revelations

    From my perspective, the only significant revelation to come out during the entire course of the two days was the existence of an internal technical note (No. 63) published within HMRC in 2002 stating that they didn’t know how to challenge the scheme from a legal standpoint. Some of the letters they subsequently sent us from 2003 onwards made reference to challenging the scheme using arguments which they had already rejected or at least cast doubt on in this technical note.

    I have raised an FOI request to get this document put into the public domain.

    http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/technical_note_63

    Case Law

    I think it is important for us to take a step back from the case and set it in a much wider context. Anyone who was present at the proceedings will have observed how both sides used numerous and varied UK and EU case law to support their proposition and also try and negate the opposing side.

    Whatever judgement the Court hands down with Section 58, this will become case law, and not only in the UK but across the whole European Union.

    The Devil is in the detail

    HMRC want the Court to set aside the details of the case (history, delay, inconsistencies) but, as our barrister pointed out, it is all about the detail of the case. The Court cannot ignore the specifics because to do so, in itself, would go against Article 1 Protocol 1.

    Whilst Nation states are afforded a wide degree of margin in matters of taxation any measures they enact have to be proportionate. It is not enough to argue that it is proportionate because it raises tax revenue and is therefore in the interests of the majority of taxpayers. If that were the case, then any minority group could be targeted retrospectively where the state decides individuals have not paid their “fair share”.

    Precedent

    In order for the Court to rule in favour of HMRC they must do so in a way which doesn’t establish a wide precedent, and it is not easy for the Court to do this given that HMRC want them to overlook the details.

    Even if the Judge accepts that there is an arguable case that the scheme might not have worked, for any of the reasons HMRC put forward, it is hard to frame this in a way that doesn’t leave the door wide open for the state to attack any arrangement where it also has an arguable case. For example, it could be argued that many of the devices used to circumvent IR35 over the past 9 years might not work if tested in a court of law. Does that give the state the right to retrospectivly change IR35 to put this beyond doubt?

    (As an aside, HMRC’s barrister made specific reference to IR35, describing it as “anti-avoidance” legislation, and citing our scheme as just one of the many varied approaches used to circumvent it.)

    Conclusion

    So, in my opinion, the only question we have to ask ourselves is how can the Court hand down a judgement in the case of Section 58 where it satisfies the Article 1 Protocol 1 requirement of proportionality, whilst at the same time not establishing a precedent in case law which could be used to further erode the legitimate rights and expectations of the individual.

    This is a difficult square to circle.

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      A little late to the party, and now a little out of context, but I'd just like to congratulate DR on the best line of the thread so far .....

      Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
      The Donkey is back and he is cross.

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        First chance I've had to post since yesterday...

        I found the 2 days in court highly interesting and I'm glad I was there, although I stayed out of the way in the upstairs gallery (I was the short guy at the end where you walked in!).

        Not a lot of point in posting observations etc as everything has already been said, but I found the Jones cameo at the end highly unusual, as did the obviously irritated judge (I think he mentioned the words "wasting the court's time" three of four times!).

        Sorry I didn't get to meet everyone, was looking around at the end yesterday but I could only see HMRC's lot huddled in an alcove outside the court room.

        DR, was that you sitting in the middle of the 3rd row yesterday with the shiny head?

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          Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
          It is usually delivered in open court. I will keep in contact with our legal team and make sure we get advance notice so people can attend to hear it handed down.

          If you thought the JR itself was nerve-racking, that will definitely be a day for the immodium.
          Cheers DR. I have a clear diary now for the next month so will do my utmost to attend, and hopefully have a few celebratory drinks with everyone

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            Originally posted by TheGaffer View Post
            DR, was that you sitting in the middle of the 3rd row yesterday with the shiny head?
            Not sure about the "shiny head" but I was the one muttering and shaking my head a lot while Singh was presenting in the morning. I was sat behind our Junior Counsel.

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              Tory government

              Does anyone know what support a future Conservative government will give to HMRC legal investigations, especially on a case paving the way for retrospective taxation?

              My guess is that the Torys wont be as keen as Labour to push this one through. Isn't that our best bet for a closure to this never ending nightmare, provided we win this round of course!

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                Thanks for your update DR.

                Just one thing to add to the various posts:

                The Judge has agreed that Padmore doesnt apply to our case, so the claim from the Revenue that they were "clarifying" existing law isn't true.

                Now, it's on this falsehood provided by the Revenue and various govt. ministers that the 2008 Finance Act was voted through in Parliament and received Queen's assent.

                So Parliament and the Queen were deceived, and I do believe that is treason.

                Question: Are they still doing executions at the tower?
                'Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual'. -
                Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.

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                  Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
                  Not sure about the "shiny head" but I was the one muttering and shaking my head a lot while Singh was presenting in the morning. I was sat behind our Junior Counsel.
                  Yeah saw that, some of the stuff he was coming out with was outrageous and I couldn't help but have a quiet chuckle upstairs when he resorted to reading out posts from the forum!

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                    Originally posted by TheGaffer View Post
                    Yeah saw that, some of the stuff he was coming out with was outrageous and I couldn't help but have a quiet chuckle upstairs when he resorted to reading out posts from the forum!
                    I do hope Santa was mentioned. I want my place in the history books, or court transcript at least
                    'Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual'. -
                    Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.

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                      Originally posted by SantaClaus View Post
                      Now, it's on this falsehood provided by the Revenue and various govt. ministers that the 2008 Finance Act was voted through in Parliament and received Queen's assent.

                      So Parliament and the Queen were deceived, and I do believe that is treason.
                      No wonder those two HMRC bods in the cheap suits, sat behind their legal team, looked so stoney faced.

                      I wonder if they were the MacDougall and Davis characters whose evidence was referred to?

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