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17th September 2008, 11:33
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Lord of Squirrels
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Originally Posted by DimPrawn
I tried to tell AtW that his business facing website looked like a 5 yr old did it in a day, and that it needs to be slick and modern and to outsource the web functionality but he has no ability to listen, take advice or understand business.
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I do not accept this opinion. Unlike you I don't operate on narrow minded opinions and I take into account conversions - they are very high.
The site can certainly be made better, but it is currently good enough so I focus more on getting bigger/better database (which is USP - not flashy web 2.0 site), and less on CUK posting trying to justify my strategy.
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17th September 2008, 11:36
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Lord of Squirrels
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Drey
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Originally Posted by sasguru
Not to mention that other comments say it is too expensive.
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I have a solution for this too, active in a few weeks time, though everyone won't be pleased - there are always people who think Porsche is expensive, some people check sites like Google and of course price will be high for those - there are billions of backlinks pointing that site, processing all that data is not cheap.
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17th September 2008, 11:38
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Lord of Squirrels
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Drey
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Originally Posted by chef
Larry Page or Sergey Brin doing that do you?
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Who do you think said this:
"The original goal of PageRank was a way to sort backlinks so if there were a large number of
backlinks for a document, the "best" backlinks could be displayed first. We have implemented such
a system. It turns out this view of the backlinks ordered by PageRank can be very interesting when
trying to understand your competition. For example, the people who run a news site always want
to keep track of any signicant backlinks the competition has managed to get. Also, PageRank can
help the user decide if a site is trustworthy or not. For example, a user might be inclined to trust
information that is directly cited from the Stanford homepage"
Page and Brin actually.
Only they found more lucrative business since then - thanks to VCs in USA, if they were in UK they would not get any money - especially from Dragons 
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17th September 2008, 11:39
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Better than AtW
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by AtW
I do not accept this opinion. Unlike you I don't operate on narrow minded opinions and I take into account conversions - they are very high.
The site can certainly be made better, but it is currently good enough so I focus more on getting bigger/better database (which is USP - not flashy web 2.0 site), and less on CUK posting trying to justify my strategy.
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Thus proving DP's point.
It's a classic techie schoolboy error to focus totally on technology to the exclusion of marketing/appearance/design or pricing or anything else that might make it a business rather than an obsession/hobby horse.
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17th September 2008, 11:39
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,096
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AtW
I do not accept this opinion. Unlike you I don't operate on narrow minded opinions and I take into account conversions - they are very high.
The site can certainly be made better, but it is currently good enough so I focus more on getting bigger/better database (which is USP - not flashy web 2.0 site), and less on CUK posting trying to justify my strategy.
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AtW, nowadays all engineering academic departments are teaching their students about the importance of usability and look&feel, however genius the product they develop or the mathematic algorithm behind it, if people don't like the look of it or don't find it easy to use, then they'll not buy it, and if they were desperate to buy it, they'll ditch it as soon as a better model appears on the market.
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17th September 2008, 11:41
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Lord of Squirrels
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Location: Drey
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Originally Posted by sasguru
It's a classic techie schoolboy error to focus totally on technology to the exclusion of marketing/appearance/design or pricing or anything else that might make it a business rather than an obsession/hobby horse.
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Why won't you do better than me then? Say I could do your job much better than you. In fact I am already doing it by posting great stuff on CUK
Back to work now - see you at the next milestone. 
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17th September 2008, 11:43
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Contractor Among Contractors
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: manchestoh
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Originally Posted by chef
he does have a nice pic of some squirrels on it though, you dont see Gates, Larry Page or Sergey Brin doing that do you?
there you go AtW, your USP 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AtW
Who do you think said this:
" It turns out this view of the backlinks ordered by PageRank can be very interesting when
trying to understand your competition. "
Page and Brin actually.
Only they found more lucrative business since then - thanks to VCs in USA, if they were in UK they would not get any money - especially from Dragons 
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you miss quoted me and misunderstood, i wasn't referring to what your site does, i was saying Page and Brin dont have a picture of squirrels on their site and that could be your USP
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17th September 2008, 11:45
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Better than AtW
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by AtW
Why won't you do better than me then? Say I could do your job much better than you. In fact I am already doing it by posting great stuff on CUK
Back to work now - see you at the next milestone. 
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 You don't have the expertise, intelligence, judgement or qualifications.
But of course in your mind you own a bank that could challenge Lehman and are an expert in economics and business.
The self-delusion is stunning and getting sad now.
I won't be holding my breath about your next milestone, which will be of interest, no doubt, to no one but yourself.
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17th September 2008, 11:49
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Lord of Squirrels
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Drey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chef
you miss quoted me and misunderstood
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I actually understood you. It is you who failed to get the irony of what you were saying in relation to what I do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chef
i wasn't referring to what your site does, i was saying Page and Brin dont have a picture of squirrels on their site and that could be your USP
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First of all, I removed squirrel photo from my business site. It remains in place on my project site which is not business focussed. If you don't like it then it's your problem.
Secondly Google regularly make funny odd changes to their main business site logo.
Anyway, those of you who pick on my business seem to have failed to heed the recent SKA updates - I will have great pleasure of making an example of you for the future generations 
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17th September 2008, 11:54
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Better than AtW
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I'm afraid atw, that you have a psychological condition.
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