Bradford

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Living in and around Bradford you tend to have a lot of Asian friends.....

Aaah. That explains a lot....

[mudskipper]

BTW, if you want to see racism park your car on Thornton Road and walk a few hundred yards with your missus. I genuinely think you would be shocked if you could translate what was said around you.

I'd assumed NWP2C was Asian?

I don't think any city's problems are caused because people are of a certain race. They're caused by divided communities - them and us - gang culture - lack of integration/understanding/tolerance.

Unfortunately those problems are more prevalent where you get a group of people from the same background who are at the bottom end of the social scale in terms of expectations, wealth and education. Where those people are from a different culture and often cannot (and/or do not want to) communicate with the native population, and have different values that conflict with those held by the locals, problems come to a head, and a deep-rooted resentment of the community occurs, which, because the community is non-white, it is easy to brand as racism.

By not allowing people to express their concerns in whatever language they feel comfortable with because the community is not white, that resentment understandably will turn into racism.

No-one accuses anyone of -isms when they complain about white no-go areas.

[stek]

Bradford

Playing Villa tonight, Bradford City I mean, not me!

Should be a good one, local boy...

[northernladuk]

I'd assumed NWP2C was Asian?

I don't think any city's problems are caused because people are of a certain race. They're caused by divided communities - them and us - gang culture - lack of integration/understanding/tolerance.

Unfortunately those problems are more prevalent where you get a group of people from the same background who are at the bottom end of the social scale in terms of expectations, wealth and education. Where those people are from a different culture and often cannot (and/or do not want to) communicate with the native population, and have different values that conflict with those held by the locals, problems come to a head, and a deep-rooted resentment of the community occurs, which, because the community is non-white, it is easy to brand as racism.

By not allowing people to express their concerns in whatever language they feel comfortable with because the community is not white, that resentment understandably will turn into racism.

No-one accuses anyone of -isms when they complain about white no-go areas.

Nicely put. I would just argue the last line though. I seem to remember people being called racists because they pointed out features of the Rochdale grooming that is related to a certain culture but anyway on the whole yes.

One thing I don't think you can do is ignore that race can in many cases be inexorably linked to these cultures be they bringing something good or bad. To act on it would be wrong. To carefully point mention it without prejudice shouldn't be. Problem is you put one foot out of line and bleeding heart liberals have the race card out in a shot.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I'd assumed NWP2C was Asian?

I don't think any city's problems are caused because people are of a certain race. They're caused by divided communities - them and us - gang culture - lack of integration/understanding/tolerance.

Unfortunately those problems are more prevalent where you get a group of people from the same background who are at the bottom end of the social scale in terms of expectations, wealth and education. Where those people are from a different culture and often cannot (and/or do not want to) communicate with the native population, and have different values that conflict with those held by the locals, problems come to a head, and a deep-rooted resentment of the community occurs, which, because the community is non-white, it is easy to brand as racism.

By not allowing people to express their concerns in whatever language they feel comfortable with because the community is not white, that resentment understandably will turn into racism.

No-one accuses anyone of -isms when they complain about white no-go areas.

Not asian my friend...... otherwise good post.

I have managed to pick up bits of urdu from people at school, college and uni though.... And there are negative + positive parts to the asian culture as with any culture.... You also have educated and uneducated classes, as was pointed out by a poster earlier on.

[Coalman]

Re: Bradford

3-1 to Bradford.

Better curries and a better football team!

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[fullyautomatix]

I seem to recall the muslim communities around Leeds/Bradford calling for an independent State within the UK back in the 80's - The current PM told them to "behave themselves"

Looks like it's back on the agenda

Dewsbury, Bradford and Tower Hamlets ... where Islamic extremists want to establish independent states with sharia law

What is it with Muslims wanting independence all the time ?

Pakistan was born because of that and now they are fighting in kashmir. The entire middle east is in turmoil over this issue. The problem though is that once they are given independence they then start fighting among themselves and it all descends into a dictatorship.

[fullyautomatix]

And WTF is that supposed to mean?!? Like it belongs to the middle-east e.g. Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Beirut, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain - all of which are 10x cleaner than the cleanest parts of the UK? Or like Pakistan which is not part of the middle-east?

Dumb ass

But he is right isnt he? Think about it. How could it ever happen that in an entire town the majority are Muslims and white british are in minority ?

[minestrone]

What is it with Muslims wanting independence all the time ?

The ones round these parts seem more interested in pretending they are from south central LA.

It is actually fairly embarrassing seeing them try to out black each other.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

What is it with Pakistanis wanting independence all the time ?

Pakistan was born because of that and now they are fighting in kashmir. The entire middle east is in turmoil over this issue. The problem though is that once they are given independence they then start fighting among themselves and it all descends into a dictatorship.

FTFY

This is a cultural thing..... Also everybody seems to be wanting independence these days - Scots, Spanish (Basque region), French (in Canada), All those soviet states he broke off from Russia etc....

As somebody pointed out earlier, Democracy is a double edged sword... it brought about Hitler afterall....