Billy Bragg

[DodgyAgent]

Not talking of communism/marxism old boy, we would as an electorate be entitled to vote on the issue. I am waving the flag for reformation not revolution my friend.

I agree that most people (not SG or DimPrawn) are to a greater/lesser extent socialist in their tendancies. This, I believe, is due to Homo Sapiens being a social species.

Socialism isn't hard and fast it is a continuum. I just like the idea of looking after my fellow man. And hey friend if I can help one of my brothers in this life I will be happy to have lived it.

What practical example of socialism have you seen that actually works. In terms of a practical way of helping one another socialism is left trailing by capitalism.

[BlackenedBiker]

What practical example of socialism have you seen that actually works. In terms of a practical way of helping one another socialism is left trailing by capitalism.

Socialism has a much longer track record than capitalism.

Socialism that works, sure Sweden: High taxes, excellent services for all.

HTH

[Mich the Tester]

Sweden: High taxes, excellent services for all.

…and lots of suicide, but that might be more to do with Abba.

[BoredBloke]

I don't agree with the huge amount of money Billy Bragg has made over the years by singing piss poor songs about equality while sitting on a personal fortune. On that basis I'm going ta ask HMRC to get Billy Bragg to pay my taxes.

[Mich the Tester]

I don't agree with the huge amount of money Billy Bragg has made over the years by singing piss poor songs about equality while sitting on a personal fortune. On that basis I'm going ta ask HMRC to get Billy Bragg to pay my taxes.

I'd still rather listen to Billy Bragg than Abba though.

[BlackenedBiker]

…and lots of suicide, but that might be more to do with Abba.

I am completely in the dark on that matter....

[MPwannadecentincome]

Has it not occured to you that these bankers happen to be very good at what they do

only some of them are - the ones who con the others into believe their hype are the good ones, the rest are busy convincing themselves they have created something out of nothing as well.

There was something in the papers at the weekend about how bankers were naive to believe house prices could only go in one direction.

[BoredBloke]

There was something in the papers at the weekend about how bankers were naive to believe house prices could only go in one direction.

You mean that they can't. Bugger. Next you'll be telling us how Super Gordon didn't get rid of the bust part out of Boom and Bust!

[DodgyAgent]

Socialism has a much longer track record than capitalism.

Socialism that works, sure Sweden: High taxes, excellent services for all.

HTH

Socialism creates no wealth whatsoever. It is the dynamics of capitalism that create the wealth and the dynamics of socialism that redistribute the wealth.
In almost all cases wealth redistribution is carried out inefficiently and ineffectively. In Sweden where the population is low and is devoid of cultural mixes the redistribution bit is slightly less inefficient than other parts of the world. I have not however heard anyone express any preference to living there as opposed to here.

[BlackenedBiker]

Socialism creates no wealth whatsoever. It is the dynamics of capitalism that create the wealth and the dynamics of socialism that redistribute the wealth.
In almost all cases wealth redistribution is carried out inefficiently and ineffectively. In Sweden where the population is low and is devoid of cultural mixes the redistribution bit is slightly less inefficient than other parts of the world. I have not however heard anyone express any preference to living there as opposed to here.

Of course socialism creates wealth it is just interested in distributing it as well.

Every system has inefficiencies, however I will not believe that just because we do not achieve 100p value in the pound that we should stop trying to help those who are less than able to help themselves.