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    #81
    I think the USA should relocate israel to cuba, this would surely solve
    all the problems in the middle east plus it would get rid of
    castro as well, I doubt Hamas rockets would reach that far....

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      #82
      Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
      And the biggest load of rubbish is the suggestion that "It is very simple". Not bad, winning that accolade when AtW has been swlobbering all over the thread like a Poacher's dog with his banal ponderous logic. If it were in fact simple it would have been resolved decades ago. Still, as someone has already stated, TB is on the case with that lovely wife of his. So "Things can only get better!"
      You're wrong. This thread started purely on the subject of the Israeli retaliation. It was not started about anything else.

      So of course it's very simple. If they weren't firing rockets every day, they wouldn't have been retaliated against, those civilians would still be alive, and there would be no thread.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
        You're wrong. This thread started purely on the subject of the Israeli retaliation. It was not started about anything else.

        So of course it's very simple. If they weren't firing rockets every day, they wouldn't have been retaliated against, those civilians would still be alive, and there would be no thread.
        If you try to compartmentalise the whole Israel/palestine question into little pieces then you might feel you are simplifying matters. However, that would be to miss the whole backdrop in this instance, and that would be missing the fundamental point entirely. The israelis have been subjugating the palestinians systematically for years. The Hamas rocket attacks are only the latest in a long line of rather pointless retaliatory actions by the palestinians.
        “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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          #84
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing...n_World_War_II

          War is not a good thing, that's why all parties should avoid getting into it.
          war is organised violence
          violence is part of the human condition
          if you do something, do it properly
          therefore war is a good thing
          and all parties should avoid getting out of it


          hic



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            #85
            Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
            You're wrong. This thread started purely on the subject of the Israeli retaliation. It was not started about anything else.

            So of course it's very simple. If they weren't firing rockets every day, they wouldn't have been retaliated against, those civilians would still be alive, and there would be no thread.


            Absolutely correct !! Hamas announced last week they would not adhere to the peace treaty with Israel , and so they are reaping the rewards of their own stupidity.

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              #86
              Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
              The israelis have been subjugating the palestinians systematically for years.
              It seems to me that Israelies mainly want to avoid being shelled by rockets and mortar shells, not being suicide bombed and stuff like that - pretty reasonable desire in my view.

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                #87
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                It seems to me that Israelies mainly want to avoid being shelled by rockets and mortar shells, not being suicide bombed and stuff like that - pretty reasonable desire in my view.
                So I think we have came full circle back to the very first point I made, you drop bombs on them, they will drop bombs on you.

                There will be a suicide attack in the next few days and then another bombing.

                It is not about who is right, it is about who will stop.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                  It is not about who is right, it is about who will stop.
                  HAMAS was sending rockets for many weeks now on Israel - there was no bombing in response, it just they really took the piss in the last few days and finally got what they deserved.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    It is not about who is right, it is about who will stop.
                    Palestinians have been offered 93% of pre 1967 territory + billions in aid to construct a new and viable state but they have refused it. The Arab leaders don't want the violence to end.
                    Bored.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by ace00 View Post
                      Palestinians have been offered 93% of pre 1967 territory + billions in aid to construct a new and viable state but they have refused it. The Arab leaders don't want the violence to end.
                      Can you show a link to where you got this information?
                      "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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