How do you...

[oracleslave]

Not really.

I just realised why I'd spent 20 years working as an IT Contractor away from home. I didn't love or even like my wife.

End of.

Fair enough. Best to get out asap then. Sounds like it has ended well?

[milanbenes]

DBA,

fair enough, I know very little about FFJ.

He he, I thought the SQL Server jibe would get you going.

The snobbery amongst dba's eh.

Now, get back to running those statistics.

Luce, what is your perfection ?

Milan.

[DBA_bloke]

He he, I thought the SQL Server jibe would get you going.

The snobbery amongst dba's eh.

You have opened the very gates of Hell! Oracle is what's known in the biz as an enterprise-class RDBMS; SQL Server is known as a silly toy for retarded folk with bed wetting issues, who don't mind losing data every day, and who can't do anything with their "database", without relying on an icon to click.

You started it!

[Churchill]

Fair enough. Best to get out asap then. Sounds like it has ended well?

You tell me how a wealthy woman can convince a court that she needs half of my pension.

Oh yeah, very fecking well indeed. Not in the least acrimonious. The nasty twisted vindictive evil bitch!

I'm down to just the one boat. How mean is that?

[oracleslave]

You tell me how a wealthy woman can convince a court that she needs half of my pension.

Oh yeah, very fecking well indeed. Not in the least acrimonious. The nasty twisted vindictive evil bitch!

I'm down to just the one boat. How mean is that?

Next!

[milanbenes]

DBA,

I like Oracle, I like that it is not intuitive and keeps the riff raff out by not having point and click controls like SQL Server, but having said that, it does my head in when it starts chucking our ora-123456 error messages on the command line when I am trying to start or stop it.

Damn thing, I had to restart a prod system the other day, short of time, damn system wouldn't shutdown, it was hanging on stopping the database.

Killed the shutdown process and went into sqlplus on the command line, tried to shut it down response was some ora-123456 crap messages, tried to start it up said it was already running, couldnt run any sql's so I did a shutdown immediate didn't work, ok, next step, shutdown abort, that told it, it went down, stopped and started the listener, started it up, did a quick sql to check it was available and started the system sorted

Milan.

[Churchill]

DBA,

I like Oracle, I like that it is not intuitive and keeps the riff raff out by not having point and click controls like SQL Server, but having said that, it does my head in when it starts chucking our ora-123456 error messages on the command line when I am trying to start or stop it.

Damn thing, I had to restart a prod system the other day, short of time, damn system wouldn't shutdown, it was hanging on stopping the database.

Killed the shutdown process and went into sqlplus on the command line, tried to shut it down response was some ora-123456 crap messages, tried to start it up said it was already running, couldnt run any sql's so I did a shutdown immediate didn't work, ok, next step, shutdown abort, that told it, it went down, stopped and started the listener, started it up, did a quick sql to check it was available and started the system sorted

Milan.

Feck me!!! All that just to change a bleedin' tape?

[milanbenes]

Dude,

contractin' innit, you gotta get the most out of the job and keep the metre ticking

an' Christmas is coming, bills to pay

Milan.

[DBA_bloke]

Damn thing, I had to restart a prod system the other day, short of time, damn system wouldn't shutdown, it was hanging on stopping the database.
Milan.

Which version? 8i & 9i can do this. Later patches may help. If 10g, go to latest version... do that anyway, 9i all but ancient history, now.

Never be fearful of using shutdown abort - Oracle will return from the dead almost always. Finally, you are in Archivelog mode, aren't you?

[Chugnut]

tar cvf /dev/rmt0 /oracledatabasewhatIjustshutdown

Happy Christmas Milan.