Complex Challenges

[Old Greg]

What bothers me Gregory, is you and your hilarious belief in your own super human gifts to see the ‘Nazi’ in a few light-hearted words. You and your like are what is wrong with this country, stifling any questioning with puerile shouts of racist and Nazi. In any other country that I know one is able to raise questions and possibly conclude all is unwell. What you reap is what you sow.

I don't seek to stifle any debate. You're the one who talks about gagging and clipping wings. Call it light-hearted now, if you like, but face it - you're busted. When someone says that socialists should be gagged but that they are the only socialist on the forum, it doesn't take a genius to work out that they're a national socialist - especially with the kind of poisonous lies you were spreading. As for superhuman - I think it's your mates who took the idea of the Übermensch and turned it into the Aryan master race. Or is that just the alien stock in me betraying a traitrous weakness?

[Bagpuss]

You're ahead of me Bagpuss, I thought he/she couldn't spell 'turd'

Even the PC mob can't be PC all of the time

[Causus Deli]

The 'economically deprived times' is the point. They are harmless in that they present no threat now, but the danger lies when times change. Hitler, Mussolini, Moseley's followers - I reckon most of those lads in their nice uniforms marching under the banners were pathetic losers before they found their leader to follow.

Look Greg, the hard times for very many are here. I would hazard a guess that neither you nor I want civil disorder in our own land. I think in parts we already have that and not to note it and discuss why and propose solutions will not make it go away. It will grow and fester and when it blows it will be much greater, and that will be because of people like you and your chums.

[Causus Deli]

Shock! Horror! A sensible post from KJ.

SG in <<needing a sit down and dose of smelling salts>> mode

But no different from what I have been saying.

[sasguru]

Look Greg, the hard times for very many are here. I would hazard a guess that neither you nor I want civil disorder in our own land. I think in parts we already have that and not to note it and discuss why and propose solutions will not make it go away. It will grow and fester and when it blows it will be much greater, and that will be because of people like you and your chums.

So what's the solution then?

[Old Greg]

Look Greg, the hard times for very many are here. I would hazard a guess that neither you nor I want civil disorder in our own land. I think in parts we already have that and not to note it and discuss why and propose solutions will not make it go away. It will grow and fester and when it blows it will be much greater, and that will be because of people like you and your chums.

Hard times are always here for some. But it is only an economic crisis that will be exploitable by your friends - remember what happened to the Jews in the 1930s?

I suspect you'd very much like civil disorder, as it provides an opportunity for those that would offer strong leadership and suspend a few of our liberties (gag the socialists, stop the BBC from broadcasting news you don't like) 'until the crisis is over'.

You offer no solutions - just manipulation and propaganda.

[sasguru]

Or is that just the alien stock in me betraying a traitrous weakness?

I think you'll find it's a traitorous frailty

[Old Greg]

We aliens aren't traitorous.

Green maybe, traitorous, no.

Green is good.

[Causus Deli]

So what's the solution then?

That is not simple. The acknowledgement there is a problem (even potential) is the first stage, not making it worse is next. NO MORE, we are full. Find those living outside the law and send them on their way. Like other sensible countries use immigration for the benefit of the country and not the immigrant. Of course if it is right like the SAS experts all over CH and EU it will benefit both. I shall return to this later....

[sasguru]

That is not simple. The acknowledgement there is a problem (even potential) is the first stage, not making it worse is next. NO MORE, we are full. Find those living outside the law and send them on their way. Like other sensible countries use immigration for the benefit of the country and not the immigrant. Of course if it is right like the SAS experts all over CH and EU it will benefit both. I shall return to this later....

I agree that Labour's immigration policy has been flawed. But I thought that those living outside the law were sent on their way anyway? Re iimigrant IT experts - I was made redundant due to this a few years ago. But I adapted. So it's not as if I am speaking from a privileged position.

Does not the Tory party have a sensible immigration policy?