Complex Challenges

[Causus Deli]

Fine thanks. This thread is shaping up to break all records for boredom though, so have fun touching yourself.

It will, as usual go on as long as I find amusement in it. I don't see any discussion here, just the usual wild accusations and hysteria about me. You really must get a grip on yourself, is the money no good?

[Old Greg]

Righty, assuming for a moment he ain't you, it does seem strange that some of these guys seem to pop up with these one-track agendas.

After the big mega-thread on this I brought myself up to speed on how much of this stuff is out there on the web. There is a complete universe of it out there some deranged, some frightening and some not too far removed from osme of the regular stuff on here (with maybe some stuff about ZOG, allied war crimes etc.)

The point is, the only reason anyone spouting this well-rehearsed bilge would need to pop up on a less 'specialised' forum is to do some evangelising.

Alternatively you all work in that big building in vauxhall.

Ok, let's pretend for the sake of argument that we're not all the same person in Vauxhall. There is a lot of right-wing stuff on this forum, some of it nasty, that I don't agree with but it doesn't bother me - sometimes I'm happy to engage and sometimes I've got work to do. But my view is that although I don't agree with it, it's all debate by people who believe in democracy and freedom of speech, so basically a good thing.

Once you get into the people who believe in ZOG / NWO / international Jewish conspiracy, then as you say, you do have to ask yourself why they'd come here, and I would agree it's to evangelise. That's why Nazi-boy bothers me. These people are dangerous. They may be pathetic as well, but that doesn't make them harmless.

[Causus Deli]

The point is, the only reason anyone spouting this well-rehearsed bilge would need to pop up on a less 'specialised' forum is to do some evangelising.

Alternatively you all work in that big building in vauxhall.

Are you saying Mr Singh is being disingenuous?

[Rantor]

It will, as usual go on as long as I find amusement in it. I don't see any discussion here, just the usual wild accusations and hysteria about me. You really must get a grip on yourself, is the money no good?

Go on then, entertain us - maybe tell us how you'll gag/clip the traitorous non-believers?

[BrilloPad]

Are you saying Mr Singh is being disingenuous?

libel! libel! libel!

how do I contact the mods?

[sasguru]

libel! libel! libel!

how do I contact the mods?

WHo the feck is Mr. Singh?

[sasguru]

These people are dangerous. They may be pathetic as well, but that doesn't make them harmless.

I don't see why. There are a few of them out there - but most people are far too sensible to fall for their one-issue agenda. It might be a different kettle of fish in economically deprived times.

[Bagpuss]

The copper stabbed to death in Luton, wonder what his family think about the added value from the new danger 'himigrants'?

[Causus Deli]

What bothers me Gregory, is you and your hilarious belief in your own super human gifts to see the ‘Nazi’ in a few light-hearted words. You and your like are what is wrong with this country, stifling any questioning with puerile shouts of racist and Nazi. In any other country that I know one is able to raise questions and possibly conclude all is unwell. What you reap is what you sow.

[Kyajae]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6751105.stm

'Fears over migrants'? Surely not.

' ...we like to queue at the Post Office and the bus stop'
' we beat the crap out of anyone who doesn't like queueing'

' ... there are communities who are experiencing migration in a way they haven't before and that can be unsettling'

' ... language was the single largest barrier to community relations.'

Do we need people who do not understand queueing etiquette, who unsettle communities and don't speeky di lingo?

Were we not a little concerned about immigration, does this government not understand when the people speak and say 'no more we are full'?

Right, lets try an get some objectiveness back.

Economic migrants who come over here to work and pay their taxes are no different to, say, contractors on this forum who go to work abroad and do the same

If, however, the government beleives in spending a hell of a lot of money on translation services (which it does) instead of putting the responsibility on migrants to learn english; if, becuase political correctness dictates, that migrants should recive preferential treatment in respect of housing, health, etc, then people already born here, and who are trying to compete in the jobs and housing market, will understandably become resentful.

The bottom line is that we are an island nation with a given social and economic infrastruture that can only support so many people. If the population increases beyond that which the infrastructure can maintain, and the resources available become skewed towards those who have paid little or nothing into the welfare state and who can't be bothered to learn english and intergrate, you will get exactly what the Beeb article is alluding to.

Economic migration is a fact of life in a global village. The question has to be how you manage that migration to the recources you have to provide for legitimate migrants. This question is one which the Blair government has consistently and persistently buried its head on for fear of being handed the old Tory tag of being the 'Nasty Party'

<Kyjae now sitting back and awaiting the EMU brigade to start squealing "racist" and other hysterical leftie smears>