Complex Challenges

[Old Greg]

I don't see why. There are a few of them out there - but most people are far too sensible to fall for their one-issue agenda. It might be a different kettle of fish in economically deprived times.

The 'economically deprived times' is the point. They are harmless in that they present no threat now, but the danger lies when times change. Hitler, Mussolini, Moseley's followers - I reckon most of those lads in their nice uniforms marching under the banners were pathetic losers before they found their leader to follow.

[sasguru]

Right, lets try an get some objectiveness back.

Economic migrants who come over here to work and pay their taxes are no different to, say, contractors on this forum who go to work abroad and do the same

If, however, the government beleives in spending a hell of a lot of money on translation services (which it does) instead of putting the responsibility on migrants to learn english; if, becuase political correctness dictates, that migrants should recive preferential treatment in respect of housing, health, etc, then people already born here, and who are trying to compete in the jobs and housing market, will understandably become resentful.

The bottom line is that we are an island nation with a given social and economic infrastruture that can only support so many people. If the population increases beyond that which the infrastructure can maintain, and the resources available become skewed towards those who have paid little or nothing into the welfare state and who can't be bothered to learn english and intergrate, you will get exactly what the Beeb article is alluding to.

Economic migration is a fact of life in a global village. The question has to be how you manage that migration to the recources you have to provide for legitimate migrants. This question is one which the Blair government has consistently and persistently buried its head on for fear of being handed the old Tory tag of being the 'Nasty Party'

<Kyjae now sitting back and awaiting the EMU brigade to start squealing "racist" and other hysterical leftie smears>

Shock! Horror! A sensible post from KJ.

SG in <<needing a sit down and dose of smelling salts>> mode

[Kyajae]

Shock! Horror! A sensible post from KJ.

SG in <<needing a sit down and dose of smelling salts>> mode

Thank you, Maggot.

[Causus Deli]

WHo the feck is Mr. Singh?

It is usual when participating in debate to get oneself informed, now at the very least I would suggest reading the article that was kindly furnished to us at the very top of this ‘ere thread. You will then discover that the topic of discussion is a result of Mr Singhs research/views. Do try and keep up, you are making a fool of yourself daily on these ‘ere boards.

[Rantor]

Right, lets try an get some objectiveness back.

Economic migrants who come over here to work and pay their taxes are no different to, say, contractors on this forum who go to work abroad and do the same

If, however, the government beleives in spending a hell of a lot of money on translation services (which it does) instead of putting the responsibility on migrants to learn english; if, becuase political correctness dictates, that migrants should recive preferential treatment in respect of housing, health, etc, then people already born here, and who are trying to compete in the jobs and housing market, will understandably become resentful.

The bottom line is that we are an island nation with a given social and economic infrastruture that can only support so many people. If the population increases beyond that which the infrastructure can maintain, and the resources available become skewed towards those who have paid little or nothing into the welfare state and who can't be bothered to learn english and intergrate, you will get exactly what the Beeb article is alluding to.

Economic migration is a fact of life in a global village. The question has to be how you manage that migration to the recources you have to provide for legitimate migrants. This question is one which the Blair government has consistently and persistently buried its head on for fear of being handed the old Tory tag of being the 'Nasty Party'

<Kyjae now sitting back and awaiting the EMU brigade to start squealing "racist" and other hysterical leftie smears>

Most of what you say is a valid point of view and one that I would largely agree with (certainly based on my experiences outside Britain)

However, your last paragraph show you to be a complet tard - is that smeary enough bawbag?

[Causus Deli]

The copper stabbed to death in Luton, wonder what his family think about the added value from the new danger 'himigrants'?

Luton is not a very pleasant place puss.

[sasguru]

The 'economically deprived times' is the point. They are harmless in that they present no threat now, but the danger lies when times change. Hitler, Mussolini, Moseley's followers - I reckon most of those lads in their nice uniforms marching under the banners were pathetic losers before they found their leader to follow.

Do you subscribe to the "charismatic leader" theory then? If so there's nothing to worry about as Nicky looks like, and has all the charisma, of an accountant.

[Kyajae]

- is that smeary enough bawbag?

Not quite, but you're getting there.

[Bagpuss]

However, your last paragraph show you to be a complet tard - is that smeary enough bawbag?

I take offence at your attitude to the disabled

[Kyajae]

I take offence at your attitude to the disabled

You're ahead of me Bagpuss, I thought he/she couldn't spell 'turd'