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Direct Debits

Cooperinliverp00l

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If you were to see me you would never believe it but i have recently joined a gym. The gym i have joined work on a year contract that you sign into and set up a direct debit for. After the year you can leave but before that you are still liable to pay for the years subscription.

I joined a few weeks ago and my first months direct debit was taken out of my bank and then put striaght back in again. Having spoken to the bank they said that the Direct Debit was cancelled by the GYM.

1. Now my question is should i ask them about it ? or just continue to use the gym for free and pretend i don't know what had gone on with bank.
2. If someone cancels a Direct Debit can they start it up again or would it need a new mandate to be created and signed by me.
3. If after so many months they realise and i set up direct debit again are they entitled to get the back subscriptions that have not been collected and can they do it in one go.

experience and advice please
 
Cooperinliverp00l said:
If you were to see me you would never believe it but i have recently joined a gym. The gym i have joined work on a year contract that you sign into and set up a direct debit for. After the year you can leave but before that you are still liable to pay for the years subscription.

I joined a few weeks ago and my first months direct debit was taken out of my bank and then put striaght back in again. Having spoken to the bank they said that the Direct Debit was cancelled by the GYM.

1. Now my question is should i ask them about it ? or just continue to use the gym for free and pretend i don't know what had gone on with bank.
2. If someone cancels a Direct Debit can they start it up again or would it need a new mandate to be created and signed by me.
3. If after so many months they realise and i set up direct debit again are they entitled to get the back subscriptions that have not been collected and can they do it in one go.

experience and advice please

Yes I would say that as soon as they realise they'll be claiming their dosh back. Saying that they probably won't realise - go for it.
 
Cooperinliverp00l said:
If you were to see me you would never believe it but i have recently joined a gym. The gym i have joined work on a year contract that you sign into and set up a direct debit for. After the year you can leave but before that you are still liable to pay for the years subscription.

I joined a few weeks ago and my first months direct debit was taken out of my bank and then put striaght back in again. Having spoken to the bank they said that the Direct Debit was cancelled by the GYM.

1. Now my question is should i ask them about it ? or just continue to use the gym for free and pretend i don't know what had gone on with bank.
2. If someone cancels a Direct Debit can they start it up again or would it need a new mandate to be created and signed by me.
3. If after so many months they realise and i set up direct debit again are they entitled to get the back subscriptions that have not been collected and can they do it in one go.

experience and advice please

The gym cannot cancel the direct debit - but thay can stop calling it. Clearly they beleived they had drawn the cash in error and returned it.

If the DD has been cancelled then a new mandate is required.

Yes, you are still liable for the charges. If there is a DD in place they could generally just take the lot in one go -also you could reclaim it because it is contrary to youre DD agreement. However that does not alter the fact that you do owe the money.

Since you know the money has been returned the gym could argue you are trying to obtain goods or services by deception.
 
My advice is don't bother with direct debits. Change everything to standing orders and have them go out on a date which suits you, not them. That way you will get less surprises as they cannot spuriously just take varying amounts on dates that suit them leaving you exposed to possible bank charges when unexpected amounts go out and leave you in the red.
 
Cooperinliverp00l said:
all sounds like i need to tell them at lunch time then.


I wouldn't say anything, Just don't spend the money! Leave it in the bank each month.

Chances are they will just take it next month, but if it goes on for 6 months or so then they discover it, I'm sure you will be able to negotiate a discounted rate being their mistake and all.

After all you are a contractor, contractors have don't check bank accounts!!!!
 

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