Memory hog software

[d000hg]

I don't think I've ever used an application with 'built in eclipse' written on its splash screen that is not a clunky, unstable, unresponsive and unpredictable piece of crap - certainly lotus notes is a good (or bad) example of this but seems to be pretty prevalent

The same Java code will build in Eclipse, netBeans or IntelliJ so I don't see how equating the IDE being inefficient to the software it produces makes sense. It's like saying programs can 'catch' memory leaks from the compiler that built them. Your issue is either with Java, or the developers who (mis)use it.

[2BIT]

The same Java code will build in Eclipse, netBeans or IntelliJ so I don't see how equating the IDE being inefficient to the software it produces makes sense. It's like saying programs can 'catch' memory leaks from the compiler that built them. Your issue is either with Java, or the developers who (mis)use it.

to me it's not about the IDE, just seems odd that apps that advertise being built using the eclipse ide seem to all suffer from the problems mentioned above

[d000hg]

Hmm, I don't think I ever saw any app advertise the IDE it was made in. Are these open-source apps or created using some Eclipse wizard template maybe?

[doodab]

Hmm, I don't think I ever saw any app advertise the IDE it was made in. Are these open-source apps or created using some Eclipse wizard template maybe?

I think he means apps that use the eclipse platform for their GUI. The eclipse java IDE would be one example.Ibm mq explorer is another. Lotus notes as well it seems, although I'm not sure if that's the admin console or an actual end user client.

I blame IBM. The actual eclipse java IDE I find ok to use, but it's not a lightweight by any stretch of the imagination.

[VectraMan]

What's the deal with JBOSS? It's not my area of expertise, but I worked somewhere that used it and I remember it took an age to install, an age to start up, and used loads of memory whilst running. And all it did was schedule simple jobs, something that could only be a couple of pages of code. Even the Java fans at the client admitted that it was a POS.

[2BIT]

Hmm, I don't think I ever saw any app advertise the IDE it was made in. Are these open-source apps or created using some Eclipse wizard template maybe?

lotus notes sticks in my mind (i've worked at a few places which have in-house apps on every desktop to kill lotus notes) but I've seen a few

I completely agree that its nothing to do with the IDE and have nothing against java based apps - in fact I rarely consider what an app has been written in but if it advertises as being built in Eclipse and is a bag of tulipe then I can't help make the association - even if its illogical

[Sysman]

Hmm, I don't think I ever saw any app advertise the IDE it was made in. Are these open-source apps or created using some Eclipse wizard template maybe?

Templates which generate inefficient code could be an explanation. I am reminded of an analysis* of regedit which reckoned the author(s) had probably copied a load of irrelevant code from elsewhere as a starting point.

Lotus Notes client had reasonable performance on the corporate (i.e. dated) PC I was using in 1998-2000, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Java based at that time.

* I came across this analysis recently, but one disadvantage of working with multiple VMs is that you can't remember which browser history to search in.

[2BIT]

Templates which generate inefficient code could be an explanation. I am reminded of an analysis* of regedit which reckoned the author(s) had probably copied a load of irrelevant code from elsewhere as a starting point.

Lotus Notes client had reasonable performance on the corporate (i.e. dated) PC I was using in 1998-2000, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Java based at that time.

* I came across this analysis recently, but one disadvantage of working with multiple VMs is that you can't remember which browser history to search in.

I use the windows version now I've found it (which was today!!) - much more stable than the java version so far

[stek]

Er, no tulip sherlock.

After all, it's only 30 years old.

So is RS/6000 which I comparing it with.