Dedicated server ...

[AtW]

One step at a time Vetran, one step at a time...

[fiddleabout]

No problem.

I know many people don't like frames - in the main that is because they don't understand how to use them.

I like them for 3 reasons ..

Static navigation menu so users do not need to scroll

Reduced server load once frameset has loaded as there are no repeat requests for the static portion.

I know how to get good google rankings with frames without having to present a load of tosh to human visitors - altavista is poor with frames but it is no longer popular anyway.

[AtW]

it is much harder to deep link tho :rolleyes

[fiddleabout]

None of which has got me any closer to my request for a recommended dedicated server provider which doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

I think I will have to move reasonably soon based on the early January stats for KwikBreaks

Jan 1-4 2003...
51 90 106 95
and Jan 2004 ...
255 355 437 488

I also need a domain registration service which gives proper DNS control - I registered www.upyoursbrown.co.uk with 1&1 as a test to see what their control panel was like - I was expecting full control of the domain but all you get (as confirmed by their tech support) is a crap masking frame which would spell the kiss of death for decent search engine placement. Lucky I didn't register the more staid domain Rhino and Fiddle Inc. have in mind for our tax avoidance scheme.

[AtW]

nice growth fiddle, would like to know good domain name register who gives full control too, so if you find one please post here cheers

[fiddleabout]

These claim to so I tried to order a different domain to check them out - I just keep getting server errors when trying to pay - that certainly does not bode well

I picked that one from this list.

www.UK2.net look quite good - their hosting at least gives some sensible bandwidth too.

[AtW]

fiddle, what are you using as your web analytics tool? Some freebie or something else?

[Vetran]

Domains with 123reg - complete control and small change prices.

[fiddleabout]

Thanks Vetran - I'll check them out.

AtW - Les Visiteurs - another advantage of frames and javascript to the frameset for orphaned pages - I only need to include the logging code in one place (main frameset) cutting down on the overhead tracking back to see if the visitor is already logged which would occur if called from every page

Raw logs and a log analysis tool would be less overhead and could show far more info but the cheapo hosting I'm using doesn't provide the logs

KwikBreaks YTD visitors - January 255 355 437 488 518 591

[AtW]

cheers