Masonry paint

[woody1]

Previously I've always just bought the contract stuff eg. Leyland Granocryl at around £25 for 5L.

Parts of our house are very exposed to all weathers, and it doesn't take more than a few winters before bits start flaking and peeling off.

Painters and decorators we've used in the past all seem to use Dulux Weathershield (£35). Don't know if this is really any better?

Anyone tried any of the following supposedly more durable stuff?

Murfill Waterproof Coating (£60)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186780914793

Wethertex AP77 (£45)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313658400590

ClimaShield (£60)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225941584210

Bedec Extra Flex (£50)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/357458873321

Thanks.

[NotAllThere]

I recently had my house repainted. The painters used something called STOColor Fungasil. It's supposed to retain its colour for ten years and its integrity for twenty.

I doubt it's available in the UK, but it's properties are: Structure-preserving, high-quality, genuine silicone resin paint (approx. 50 % of the total binder content), very good coverage, very high water repellency, very high CO2 and water vapour permeability, very low soiling tendency, very low-stress drying behaviour.

Apparently in the UK, similar products are Emperor Masonry Paint and Kingdisher Weatherflex Masonry Paint.

[courtg9000]

Slightly off topic.
But I used Dulux Bathroom paint a while back on my bathroom.
I wasn't impressed with it. Id expect better from 2 coats of a "specialist" paint.
Switched to Crown Paints and indeed for the rest of the house, very happy with the quality.

[WTFH]

I'd suggest that rather than ebay, find your nearest Brewers and ask/buy from them:
https://www.brewers.co.uk/products/paints

[woody1]

I'd suggest that rather than ebay, find your nearest Brewers and ask/buy from them:
https://www.brewers.co.uk/products/paints

I checked a few of the masonry paints they sell, and I can get them on eBay eg. the Bedec one above. They're a few quid cheaper on eBay and it saves a car journey.

[northernladuk]

Slightly off topic.
But I used Dulux Bathroom paint a while back on my bathroom.
I wasn't impressed with it. Id expect better from 2 coats of a "specialist" paint.
Switched to Crown Paints and indeed for the rest of the house, very happy with the quality.

Good that you've spotted it and changed. It's possible the number 1 problem (IMHO) that amateur DIY's run in to. Assuming paint is just pain and B&Q will have the best. Couldn't be further from the truth but until you either try better paint or listen to a pro decorator you'll never know. Dulux and Valspar (spit) are just the pits. The paint mixing service is very useful but the paint is just rubbish. I spent bleeding years putting endless coats of this stuff on thinking it was OK. Did wonder why even covering a slight off colour could sometimes take three coats and why I had to re-do ceilings next day when it dried and it looked a mess. Thought it was me but it wasn't.

Crown are OK but IMO I'd find the local trade pain store and go down there. You'll come back with stuff you've never heard off but it will go on thick, won't need as many coats and be much easier to use, espcially when cutting in. I was shocked at the difference.

So WTFH has nailed the answer but not just that group. Any trade paint shop locally, usually tucked away on an idustrial park somewhere, not on a retail park or anything.
I see the OP has responded that he can find it on ebay but you are looking for quality paint, why then buy it from somewhere you don't trust? Get the right stuff from the right people and you'll never look back.

Oh, my other tip as well is to buy the rollers and trays/buckets from the trade store, not the B&Q crap that won't hold paint, drop hairs etc. Something as simple as getting a bucket with a vertical tray for rolling off excess paint and not a normal plastic tray will make a massive difference as well.

I've spent years doing it 'wrong' and it's only when I renovated a rental from top to bottom a couple of months ago when I got the lot from the trade that I realised how bad the old stuff was. I'm 100% converted now.

[northernladuk]

But to answer the OP's point I'd say it's worth a car drive to a trade place, buy what they suggest and you are sorted. Somethings are worth a bit of effort, especially when the other option is to get it wrong and you are doing the whole lot in a few years again.

That said, I'm finding the Zinsser stuff pretty epic. I have Zinsser All Coat Exterior Satin on my decking and UPVc frames. I used Zinsser primer on the windows to bond on the plastic. I don't expect the decking to last long but it's been down two years and the windows were painted from white to Grey about 4 years ago and can't fault it so far. If I were in your shoes I'd be using Bullseye Primer and then All Weather Masonary Paint.

[courtg9000]

Good that you've spotted it and changed. It's possible the number 1 problem (IMHO) that amateur DIY's run in to. Assuming paint is just pain and B&Q will have the best. Couldn't be further from the truth but until you either try better paint or listen to a pro decorator you'll never know. Dulux and Valspar (spit) are just the pits. The paint mixing service is very useful but the paint is just rubbish. I spent bleeding years putting endless coats of this stuff on thinking it was OK. Did wonder why even covering a slight off colour could sometimes take three coats and why I had to re-do ceilings next day when it dried and it looked a mess. Thought it was me but it wasn't.

Crown are OK but IMO I'd find the local trade pain store and go down there. You'll come back with stuff you've never heard off but it will go on thick, won't need as many coats and be much easier to use, espcially when cutting in. I was shocked at the difference.

So WTFH has nailed the answer but not just that group. Any trade paint shop locally, usually tucked away on an idustrial park somewhere, not on a retail park or anything.
I see the OP has responded that he can find it on ebay but you are looking for quality paint, why then buy it from somewhere you don't trust? Get the right stuff from the right people and you'll never look back.

Oh, my other tip as well is to buy the rollers and trays/buckets from the trade store, not the B&Q crap that won't hold paint, drop hairs etc. Something as simple as getting a bucket with a vertical tray for rolling off excess paint and not a normal plastic tray will make a massive difference as well.

I've spent years doing it 'wrong' and it's only when I renovated a rental from top to bottom a couple of months ago when I got the lot from the trade that I realised how bad the old stuff was. I'm 100% converted now.

Yep, i'm pretty happy with crown though im still annoyed with Dulux - having to get a bathroom redone after only 6 months was not something I wanted to happen.

[WTFH]

But to answer the OP's point I'd say it's worth a car drive to a trade place, buy what they suggest and you are sorted. Somethings are worth a bit of effort, especially when the other option is to get it wrong and you are doing the whole lot in a few years again.

That said, I'm finding the Zinsser stuff pretty epic. I have Zinsser All Coat Exterior Satin on my decking and UPVc frames. I used Zinsser primer on the windows to bond on the plastic. I don't expect the decking to last long but it's been down two years and the windows were painted from white to Grey about 4 years ago and can't fault it so far. If I were in your shoes I'd be using Bullseye Primer and then All Weather Masonary Paint.

Zinsser stain/knot paint is great for covering water marks on plaster walls/ceilings or on knots in wood. For insider the house I tend to use Earthborn clay paint, which is breathable, so it's great on old or damp buildings, but it also generally goes on very well in 1-2 coats, and doesn't contain a lot of the harmful chemicals you get in other brands. It's not cheap, but it is value for money.

[sadkingbilly]

do your own painting?
AYSYCOTBC????