Agas

[Spacecadet]

It's not up to the government to provide anything other than protection against invading forces, and a basic welfare state.

In your (questionable) opinion

The majority of the country expect a bit more from the government

 

[doodab]

Well maybe I don't want them literally to starve, but I don't have any sympathy to someone whinging about a lack of money when they have an expensive aga oven and are unprepared to move for food. I think they borrowed heavily during the good times, blowing all the money on good living, and have no fallback funds.

Maybe they did. Maybe they have always lived in the countryside, the aga has been there for years and they can't afford to replace it, and they don't want to move for food because they don't want to see their whole way of life turned upside down by economic circumstance that's beyond their control.

Either way, my point was that your perception of bias in the article was due to your own prejudice.

 

[original PM]

In your (questionable) opinion

The majority of the country expect a bit more from the government

at a very basic level he is correct

yes we expect a bit more but to be honest I would be happy with some morals for a start.

 

[doodab]

The majority of the country expect a bit more from the government

Exactly. I expect financial profligacy and an endless supply of tawdry scandals. I may not want it, but I expect it.

 

[bobspud]

Well maybe I don't want them literally to starve, but I don't have any sympathy to someone whinging about a lack of money when they have an expensive aga oven and are unprepared to move for food. I think they borrowed heavily during the good times, blowing all the money on good living, and have no fallback funds.

Time to re-open the work houses for the feckless poor..

You mean supported the economy and paid tens of thousands in VAT and Excise duty...

Although your cleaner was low maintenance supporting a family gets expensive and quick. Plus the fact that it's not in everyones life plan that they will get poorer once they are on a good wage.
As previously demonstrated with
Weavers and Textile workers, Coal Miners, Printers. and soon IT workers...

With inflation going up at an alarming rate (despite official figures) for many there is even less incentive to bother saving cash in liquid forms. So its no wonder that there are people that are asset rich but cash poor

 

[ZARDOZ]

It's not up to the government to provide anything other than protection against invading forces, and a basic welfare state. People could have hedged themselves against rising fuel costs if they had the foresight. In any case fuel has not been going up, it's the pound that's been going down.

Time to re-open the work houses for the feckless poor..

I would say it's absolutely vital that a country can be in control of it's own Energy supplies. The Governments have over recent years decided that is not important. Hence for example importing gas from Eastern Europe. If they can print money to bail out the banks, waste 32 billion on a railway that stops in a couple of places, they can build some power stations

Maybe one day you will not be able to afford to heat your house and perhaps that will change your opinion of what a Government should do. Stand back and let the country fall apart would seems to be your current view.

 

[KentPhilip]

The majority of the country expect a bit more from the government

This is the problem - people should stop thinking that government are part of the solution. Normally they're part of the problem.

Either way, my point was that your perception of bias in the article was due to your own prejudice.

Have a read of biasedbbc.org for regular examples of BBC left-wing bias, and see what you think.

I would say it's absolutely vital that a country can be in control of it's own Energy supplies. The Governments have over recent years decided that is not important. Hence for example importing gas from Eastern Europe. If they can print money to bail out the banks, waste 32 billion on a railway that stops in a couple of places, they can build some power stations

Maybe one day you will not be able to afford to heat your house and perhaps that will change your opinion of what a Government should do. Stand back and let the country fall apart would seems to be your current view.

Let the markets sort it out. Relax planning controls to let entrepreneurs build power stations wherever they want them. OK the green lobby don't want a power station in the lake district? Well then the greens can outbid the power companies on the land if they value the "view" that much.

Maybe I won't be able to heat my house. I'll just put on some extra clothing, or light a fire with twigs from the garden. We've all only had central heating for the past 50 years or so - it's hardly a god-given right.

 

[doodab]

Have a read of biasedbbc.org for regular examples of BBC left-wing bias, and see what you think.

I think that your perception of bias in that particular article appears to based on the fact they didn't make the same value judgement as you.

Like most frothy mouthed loons you're far too biased to form any sort of judgement on the impartiality of others and seemingly incapable of understanding the difference between somebody not expressing a view and somebody not sharing yours.

That's what I think.

As for that site, anyone who sits there looking solely for examples of left wing bias in the output of a media organisation is going to suffer from confirmation bias.

 

[doodab]

Let the markets sort it out. Relax planning controls to let entrepreneurs build power stations wherever they want them. OK the green lobby don't want a power station in the lake district? Well then the greens can outbid the power companies on the land if they value the "view" that much.

So we should let everything go to the highest bidder? Free markets, open borders, shut any schools and hospitals that can't pay their way and disband the police so the market can fill the void?

 

[KentPhilip]

Like most frothy mouthed loons you're far too biased to form any sort of judgement on the impartiality of others and seemingly incapable of understanding the difference between somebody not expressing a view and somebody not sharing yours.

No I do see the difference.
I guess the underlying problem is that the BBC should be impartial and non-political, according to their charter and that they are being paid for by everyone. The fact that they're saying things that people are interpreting as political (in my case seeing as left-wing) is bias.

If the BBC came out and said they were left-wing then I would be happy with it. It's the problem that they are indoctrinating especially the young into thinking that their views are the "official" opinion is wrong in my view.
They should stick to reporting the facts, preferably by a computerised voice incapable of using style of delivery / emotions to imply a certain sentiment.

By the way google: bbc wing bias
and see that three of the four autocomplete options say left wing bias, with only one saying right wing bias.

Then try googling: biassed
and see the suggested word: BBC

As for the question of being a loon and frothing at the mouth, of course I am - I'm on here!