Global Warming

[DimPrawn]

Indeed the prediction has been duly noted. We will review this again in 2012-2014.

If we haven't been bankrupted by Carbon taxes and have electricity, computers and the like, yes.

[doodab]

Indeed the prediction has been duly noted. We will review this again in 2012-2014.

Are there any predictions from the non AGW camp that would let us ascertain who's theories predict reality the best?

[EternalOptimist]

Are there any predictions from the non AGW camp that would let us ascertain who's theories predict reality the best?

I predict that the climate will bump around as it always has done. Human understanding of the many thousands of variables that influence climate will increase, and the main ones will be identified and singled out. After they have been rated and weighted it will be seen that one of the least important variables is the tiny proportion of a tiny proportion of the atmospheric mix, man made co2.
And people will look at the story of CAGW in the same book that they look at the story of the Salem witch trials

[DimPrawn]

I predict that the climate will bump around as it always has done. Human understanding of the many thousands of variables that influence climate will increase, and the main ones will be identified and singled out. After they have been rated and weighted it will be seen that one of the least important variables is the tiny proportion of a tiny proportion of the atmospheric mix, man made co2.
And people will look at the story of CAGW in the same book that they look at the story of the Salem witch trials

Burn him! Heretic!

[EternalOptimist]

Burn him! Heretic!

And Yes ! the future day psychoanalysts will look at the two stories, and they will note a common theme of self hate. They will ponder - what is it that drives people to believe the wild and destructive flights of fancy?
they will wonder why the men of reason let it take hold and flourish. why noone stood up and said

this is bollocks

[DimPrawn]

And Yes ! the future day psychoanalysts will look at the two stories, and they will note a common theme of self hate. They will ponder - what is it that drives people to believe the wild and destructive flights of fancy?
they will wonder why the men of reason let it take hold and flourish. why noone stood up and said

this is bollocks

Why would anyone want to do that?

[BlasterBates]

We had the same thing in the 30's a huge number of people were taken in faschism, and then communism. The new fad is environmentalism.

I put it down to people needing a figurehead and some arbitary rules they can follow without question, I suppose like a new religion really.

[d000hg]

If you draw a trendline through all the significant local minima in that graph it's still going up though.

[OwlHoot]

Even so, what is causing the slow rise in average temperatures ?
is a trace plant food gas in the atmosphere
or the fact that have left an ice age and are warming up

The last ice age ended 7000 years ago or more. So I hardly think a 0.25deg rise in 30 years can be attributed to steady warming since then.

[EternalOptimist]

The last ice age ended 7000 years ago or more. So I hardly think a 0.25deg rise in 30 years can be attributed to steady warming since then.

exactly the same mistake as the Warmists make. Everything of importance must have happened in the last 30 years. Its such an ego-centric view that its quite staggering.

we should be looking at these things over epochs, not human lifespans. How much co2 was in the atmosphere a million years ago ? why didnt the earth catch fire