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    #41
    Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
    I tried log in to that the old forum to try and find the relevant button/thingy/widget.
    Well, the Internet Archive wouldn't be able to log you in anyway - it doesn't have any of the back-end code or database, just the HTML etc. that it saw when it crawled the site back in 2007.
    Last edited by NickFitz; 6 July 2010, 17:27.

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      #42
      Originally posted by doodab View Post
      FWIW, I noticed the missing forum button too, but it didn't bother me much because I always found it slightly annoying that it took me back to the home page.
      One of the main issues I had with the so-called tab bar was that it didn't act like a tab bar does: in reality it was just some links, dressed up to look like a tab bar.

      For example, if I went to advanced search and looked for stuff posted by a specific user in Technical between certain dates, I'd get a page of results with the "What's New" tab highlighted. (This didn't make any sense to start with, so let's say we change the tab to "Search Results".) Now the problem is that, if I click on the "Forum" tab, I go to the forum home page, but when I click on the "Search Results" tab again, I don't go back to my previous results: I go to the results of a "What's New" search. In fact there's no way to get back to my search results other than by using the Back button or repeating the search. It also suggests that the tab should constantly change its title, which isn't what tabs do: even on MS's weird multiline tab bars, they don't actually change their names, they just move around unpredictably.

      Similarly, if I'm in, say, Technical, the "Forum" tab is highlighted. If I click on "What's New" and then re-select the "Forum" tab, it takes me back to the home page.

      The whole tab metaphor is fundamentally broken: they aren't tabs at all. The problem is that vBulletin had to have a UI that could cope with a bunch of new stuff they've added to their overall suite (none of which is used here), and they let the graphic designers loose on it instead of the interaction designers. Any ID worth their salt would understand that navigating between different components of a site (forum, blogs, search, etc.) is not the same as switching among multiple views in an application (e.g. most preference dialogs, or a tabbed browser) and therefore the tab metaphor is not only inappropriate, but misleading.

      Getting rid of the tabs has revealed that the previously-unnoticed changes they've made to the breadcrumb trail (for no readily apparent reason) mean that it isn't good enough, so I'm going to fix it. With a bit of luck, everybody will then be happy.

      Actually, I think I'll make a nice cup of tea before getting back to it

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        #43
        Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
        Where's the nice button that gets me from PM->Inbox back to Forum->Social->...?
        If you know how to use the PM system enough to complain about it - why not send Nick a PM, rather than the usual "shout loudly in General so everyone notices me"?

        Or, you could use the dedicated thread for forum improvements to comment there....
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          #44
          I've not noticed at work because my monitor is knackered... Is it me or has the colour scheme gone a bit John Major?

          One more thing, I've got a super duper 16:9 letterbox monitor yet I'm still seeing a horizontal slider bar. WTFITA??
          Last edited by gingerjedi; 6 July 2010, 18:04.
          Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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            #45
            Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
            I've not noticed at work because my monitor is knackered... Is it me or has the colour scheme gone a bit John Major?

            One more thing, I've got a super duper 16:9 letterbox monitor yet I'm still seeing a horizontal slider bar. WTFITA??
            Lots of people wanted a less colourful version as they felt it would be less conspicuous in the office, so here it is. If you'd like the blue version back, use the link at the top right (above the banner ad)

            The horizontal scrollbar implies that you're using IE6 or IE7. They've been slightly broken by some hacks they needed for some other stuff that was even more broken. There's a fix on the way. If you notice anything else wonky, could you post it over here and I'll check it out

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