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yep.Originally posted by minestrone View PostIn the circumstances described there is a resonable right to open the mail.
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Don't worry. If you do start getting letters from baliffs, write to them (recorded delivery) and tell them the person doesn't live there and to stop harassing you. In the unliely event that one turns up on your doorstep, you don't have to let them in (unless they are collecting for the council or HMRC). Show em your driving licence to prove your identity.Originally posted by norrahe View PostThe company isn't listed with companies house, just checked.
If the loan does appear on my credit rating (but according to experian it shouldn't), I will get in touch.
I hope this is a loan from before we bought the place, but the fact this mail has been appearing recently does not inspire me with hope.
Always put return to sender has not lived for "n" years etc... etc... but it has had no impact.
This problem has been covered on Moneysavingexpert (I think that's where I got the above info) so have a search on there.+50 Xeno Geek Points
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I've checked all the stuff about bailiffs online.Originally posted by Zippy View PostDon't worry. If you do start getting letters from baliffs, write to them (recorded delivery) and tell them the person doesn't live there and to stop harassing you. In the unliely event that one turns up on your doorstep, you don't have to let them in (unless they are collecting for the council or HMRC). Show em your driving licence to prove your identity.
This problem has been covered on Moneysavingexpert (I think that's where I got the above info) so have a search on there.
Its the fact he may have taken the loan out using our address.
If he has that's fraud.Comment
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Hmm, maybe when you purchase a property it's worth getting, as a condition of the sale, the vendor's written consent to open subsequent mail received there addressed to them.
A kosher vendor, who promptly has their mail redirected, shouldn't object, and one would be covered for "tampering with mail".Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ hereComment
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makes you wonder why this isnt standard, even if it's done via the agent.Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostHmm, maybe when you purchase a property it's worth getting, as a condition of the sale, the vendor's written consent to open subsequent mail received there addressed to them.
A kosher vendor, who promptly has their mail redirected, shouldn't object, and one would be covered for "tampering with mail".(\__/)
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I have had similar incidences. Even when the law is on you side there is very little you can do. If you move house again, get the solicitor to check the credit record of that address. If there is a credit problem at that address, get it fixed prior to exchange of contracts.
If is a very serious problem and unfortunately companies and individuals don’t take it seriously. I had a gas bill for a Mr Singh even though I don’t have gas. A Mr Singh gave my address as a forwarding address. I had six months of phone calls and correspondence with British Gas and they threatened to cut off my gas supply even though I didn’t have a gas supply. One day I came back from work to find the locks changed. British Gas had forced there way in to cut the gas off. A letter stated “We could not find your gas meter”
I contacted Ofgas or whatever it was called then, and I was told that they could not help me because I was not a gas customer. It gets worse but I will stop there.
Bailiffs do have more powers that people believe and even though bailiffs seem to have shady backgrounds, they are protected in law like the police. However, they don’t have to identify themselves like the police.
Once bailiffs get in your property, they can take away your goods, computer, documents etc. It will be up to you to get them back by proving that you are the innocent party.
Before the Muppets on CUK start countering the above, I have sorted out similar problems for friends and even friends of friends. My experience has been practical experience not cut and past info from the net.
In order to get out of this norrahe, you need to write very strong letters to those involved and threaten them with court action such as an injunctions."A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George OrwellComment
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I would do so, but have no forwarding address for said previous owner.Originally posted by Paddy View PostIn order to get out of this norrahe, you need to write very strong letters to those involved and threaten them with court action such as an injunctions.
Estate agents will not give me any details and apparently they have archived any details of sales in the last 3 years (helpful, not!).
Looking at the mail received this morning, the loan was taken out while he was living here, so hasn't been taken recently. (thankfully, otherwise I would be going to police).
The bank where he has this loan aren't being very helpful, I have asked them to contact said person to ensure that they provide correct address, but they haven't given any assurances.
I don't know how you can convince these people otherwise that this barsteward doesn't live here.
							
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As said use Experian or Equifax to see if his info is going onto your file (If not don't worry). If so, get yourself dissociated from him (it may be assumed you are connected by virtue of sharing the address). One you have done that the matter should be over. Just put the letters in a box or return to sender. I wouldn't bin or open other people's letters. A lot of big companies are using shadowy collection agnencies now who do not follow good practice, which makes this issue all the more frustrating!Originally posted by norrahe View PostI would do so, but have no forwarding address for said previous owner.
Estate agents will not give me any details and apparently they have archived any details of sales in the last 3 years (helpful, not!).
Looking at the mail received this morning, the loan was taken out while he was living here, so hasn't been taken recently. (thankfully, otherwise I would be going to police).
The bank where he has this loan aren't being very helpful, I have asked them to contact said person to ensure that they provide correct address, but they haven't given any assurances.
I don't know how you can convince these people otherwise that this barsteward doesn't live here.
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostAnd that aint true either. Many years ago as a student we had the same problem. I had a massive argument with a guy on the phone as I had opened the mail and phoned up. He read me the riot act.
About a week later we had the police turn up, who also read us the riot act about tampering with the mail.
I've opened mail addressed to previous occupants in rented accommodation and phoned the companies up. Nothing happened.
One of them did happen to be the bank I banked with at the time though and they questioned me greatly until I pointed out I also banked with them.
The issue they had is they didn't understand why someone was using their bank account and was using the address I was living at for over 2 years when they had left a few months before I moved in. Oh and they weren't in debt.
BTW it's not illegal to open mail not addressed to you unless you plan on doing something dodgy with it. Telling companies that they are sending mail incorrectly to your address is not illegal.
Have a search on moneysavingexpert on how to deal with bailiffs but be warned that if you leave a window open a bailiff has the right to enter by that window regardless of high up the window is.Last edited by SueEllen; 6 March 2010, 23:47."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
 
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