I was thinking about thinking

[sasguru]

true grasshopper, but

If Quality exists in the object, why can’t scientific instruments detect it?


keep him talking, the men in the white coats are on the way

I can't always detect quality, but can always detect the lack of it.

HTH

knobber

[Scary]

WHS.
No Buddhist ever invented a motor bike.

Today the motorcycle industry is dominated by the Japanese, who are predominantly Shinto or Buddhist.

[sasguru]

Today the motorcycle industry is dominated by Japanese who predominantly Shinto or Buddhist.

No buddhist ever invented a motorbike

HTH

[EternalOptimist]

I can't always detect quality, but can always detect the lack of it.

HTH

knobber

So it's subjective then.

If you dont like it, just change your mind

keep him out of the agw thread - let him talk sh ite here instead

[sasguru]

keep him out of the agw thread

Don't want me to see your humiliation on that thread, eh?
I don't really need to be there.
Mr Clarke is destroying you and your friend Master bates with the force of his logic.

[EternalOptimist]

Don't want me to see your humiliation on that thread, eh?
I don't really need to be there.
Mr Clarke is destroying you and your friend Master bates with the force of his logic.

busted

[darrenb]

Don't forget to read Lila.

[NickFitz]

WHS.
It was written when the US was the in the grip of a love affair with a misunderstood Eastern mysticism.
If you want to fix your machinery and be at one with it, you'd be better going to an evening class about engines.
No Buddhist ever invented a motor bike.

The author's note at the start of the book makes it clear that ZAAMM isn't to do with Zen, nor does it have much to do with motorcycles.

Excellent book IMO, and it inspired me to study philosophy at university. However I realise that Pirsig's ideas can be difficult for some people to grasp

[NickFitz]

Don't forget to read Lila.

+1

[mudskipper]

Grasshopper
Does this ‘quality’ of yours exist in the things we observe? Or is it subjective, existing only in the observer?

First, we'd have to agree a definition of quality.