Yet another reason....

**DimPrawn** · 30 January 2009, 11:46

I think Turkey is one step too far for European Union.

If we welcome Turkey, then why not the whole middle east?

Why not North Africa?

All getting silly now.

**Mich the Tester** · 30 January 2009, 11:53

Turkey doesn’t need the EU.

**ratewhore** · 30 January 2009, 12:13

I'm sure Greece are quite pleased they're not in the EU.

**Cyberman** · 30 January 2009, 12:17

Muslims always stick together and this is not democracy. Imagine a vote in the EU which has a majority of muslims in 50 years time(not impossible as muslims breed at 3.5 per family in the UK, for example). It would be like a union block vote!!!

**Mich the Tester** · 30 January 2009, 12:21

Originally posted by Cyberman View Post

Muslims always stick together and this is not democracy. Imagine a vote in the EU which has a majority of muslims in 50 years time(not impossible as muslims breed at 3.5 per family in the UK, for example). It would be like a union block vote!!!

Muslim populations in Europe, including Turkey, are heavily urbanised. In every society on earth and in history, urbanisation has led to lower birth rates. There is no reason why this should not happen among Muslims.

**Cyberman** · 30 January 2009, 12:26

Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post

Muslim populations in Europe, including Turkey, are heavily urbanised. In every society on earth and in history, urbanisation has led to lower birth rates. There is no reason why this should not happen among Muslims.

What rubbish. The birth rate is 3.5 in the UK compared with .9 for Brits.

**Cyberman** · 30 January 2009, 12:28

Originally posted by Cyberman View Post

Muslims always stick together and this is not democracy. Imagine a vote in the EU which has a majority of muslims in 50 years time(not impossible as muslims breed at 3.5 per family in the UK, for example). It would be like a union block vote!!!

You only have to look at the voting in the European Song Contest to see muslim democracy at work !!

**BrianSnail** · 30 January 2009, 12:30

Originally posted by Cyberman View Post

... why Turkey should be kept out of the EU.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/davos/7859815.stm

I find Turkey quite dry, so prefer chicken.

**Pickle2** · 30 January 2009, 12:30

Fyi - Some Fertility rates by country.

Fertility rate
in 2008
(births/woman)

World Average 2.61

New Zealnd 2.11

USA 2.1

France 1.89

Turkey 1.87

Iran 1.71

Yet another reason....