Gordon Brown

[hugebrain]

look lads,

fact: the country has had economic stability for 10 years
fact: everyones houses are now worth a fortune

Milan.

These two contradict each other, Commie.

[milanbenes]

hello hugebrain,

how is economic stability and house price increases a contradiction ?

house prices increases are a result of the economic stability

still, whatever.

Milan.

[hugebrain]

hello hugebrain,

how is economic stability and house price increases a contradiction ?

house prices increases are a result of the economic stability

still, whatever.

Milan.

stable:

resistant to change of position or condition; "a stable ladder"; "a stable peace"; "a stable relationship"; "stable prices"


So, an economy with dramatic changes in house prices is not stable.

[NoddY]

hello hugebrain,

how is economic stability and house price increases a contradiction ?

house prices increases are a result of the economic stability

still, whatever.

Milan.

No, they are the result of a credit bubble.

[Shimano105]

Tis true Milan. We might have stifling taxation, piss poor public services, crippled transport, non-existent ejukation, immigration overload, massive debts, riddled with crime, but MY HOUSE IS WORTH MILLIONS!



Vote Gordon!

You forgot to mention our spotless hopsitals where c.difficile rises 20% in 3 months - apparently the 1% NI increase to fund the NHS didn't extend to getting nurses to wash their hands

[Old Greg]

You forgot to mention our spotless hopsitals where c.difficile rises 20% in 3 months - apparently the 1% NI increase to fund the NHS didn't extend to getting nurses to wash their hands

C. Difficile is a more complex problem than 'nurses not washing their hans' (but I agree it is a disgraceful state of affairs, caused IMO by NL's tinkering with organisational restructuring and political targets at the expense of quality).

[DimPrawn]

It has something to do with the private contract cleaning companies that employ a few untrained immigrants on min wage to flick a duster when the places need scrubbibg top to bottom with anti-bacterial chemicals too.

[Old Greg]

It has something to do with the private contract cleaning companies that employ a few untrained immigrants on min wage to flick a duster when the places need scrubbibg top to bottom with anti-bacterial chemicals too.

Private contracting firms are a problem - BTW, introduced following the Tory introduction of Compulsive Competitive Tendering. It was all about accepting the cheapest bid, which drove down quality of service. I've worked in a ward with an in-house dedicated cleaner (an immigrant as it happens) who was properly trained, did a great job, was respected as part of the team, and took pride in his work.

I've worked in hospitals where cleaning is contracted out (the immigrant issue is a sideshow as in cities this is the case, but in smaller towns, they are largely local white women and the effect is the same), and then there are problems. As you say, training is bad, pay is bad and they are overstretched. But also, they tend to work in a different place from day to day, and don't build relationships with colleagues. as a result, they don't seem to take the same pride in their work, and cleanliness suffers.

[milanbenes]

thanks for that Greg, a very interesting piece of information indeed

keep up the good work

Milan.

[Let-Me-In]

Private contracting firms are a problem - BTW, introduced following the Tory introduction of Compulsive Competitive Tendering. It was all about accepting the cheapest bid, which drove down quality of service. I've worked in a ward with an in-house dedicated cleaner (an immigrant as it happens) who was properly trained, did a great job, was respected as part of the team, and took pride in his work.

I've worked in hospitals where cleaning is contracted out (the immigrant issue is a sideshow as in cities this is the case, but in smaller towns, they are largely local white women and the effect is the same), and then there are problems. As you say, training is bad, pay is bad and they are overstretched. But also, they tend to work in a different place from day to day, and don't build relationships with colleagues. as a result, they don't seem to take the same pride in their work, and cleanliness suffers.

Management also have to take some responsibility here. As a manager, I cannot abide sloppy working and poor standards...but that seems a dying attitude nowadays.