Lockdown

[escapeUK]

Probably 1% of people did that, but they're visible and good for headlines.

There has clearly been a gradual erosion of caution, call it fatigue, among the general population which is the main source of problems. In spring most people were quite serious about following the rules; a minority flouted them but cases came right down. In autumn, a minority flouted them but many more just weren't being strict any more.

Somehow the population needs to be motivated to follow the rules again. Fear of fines seems a poor motivation, you only have to look at how many people speed when driving.

Fatigue? With what? The constant lies that have been exposed as a total economy destroying overreaction, where the cure is far far worse than a disease which on average kills people who are older than the average life expectancy.

People are not cautious when they realise there is nothing to fear for 99.7% of us. But yeah, lets keep locking down to give that 0.3% a few more months of life.

 

[d000hg]

Fatigue? With what? The constant lies that have been exposed as a total economy destroying overreaction, where the cure is far far worse than a disease which on average kills people who are older than the average life expectancy.

People are not cautious when they realise there is nothing to fear for 99.7% of us. But yeah, lets keep locking down to give that 0.3% a few more months of life.

I wonder where you get 99.7% from? You don't consider having to spend a week on a respirator "something to fear", or all the other non-fatal complications?

 

[northernladuk]

I wonder where you get 99.7% from? You don't consider having to spend a week on a respirator "something to fear", or all the other non-fatal complications?

And at what point in time is he taking those statistics. They are probably already out of date..and not for the better.

 

[AtW]

People are not cautious when they realise there is nothing to fear for 99.7% of us. But yeah, lets keep locking down to give that 0.3% a few more months of life.

Would you fly an airplane if there was 0.3% chance of death? Or drive a car?

 

[d000hg]

Would you fly an airplane if there was 0.3% chance of death? Or drive a car?

He seems like the sort of person that wouldn't wear a seatbelt so maybe.

 

[GigiBronz]

They didn’t take a stance hard enough in the first place because it would have crippled the economy.
People would flock the rules, but they knew that and still encouraged it by offering “eat out to help out”.
They still need people to go to work to keep the essential systems working so they are still playing it down.

On the other hand they can piggyback on it so that some of the issues with brexit can be hidden behind it. Or some legislation be pushed through that would otherwise get scrutinity.

Don’t expect the rulling classes to care about the average person, they never did and never will.

The only reason they did not take a hard stance in the first place and did not stand by it was because they actually did not want to.

 

[NotAllThere]

Would you fly an airplane if there was 0.3% chance of death? Or drive a car?

Would you drive a car with, instead of an airbag, had a big spike coming out of the steering wheel? Even though the chances of having an accident are really low?

Humans are notorious badly at estimating risk.

 

[AtW]

Would you drive a car with, instead of an airbag, had a big spike coming out of the steering wheel? Even though the chances of having an accident are really low? Humans are notorious badly at estimating risk.

If it's driving out of Covid red zone - why not?

 

[escapeUK]

I wonder where you get 99.7% from? You don't consider having to spend a week on a respirator "something to fear", or all the other non-fatal complications?

A coward dies a thousand deaths. No, I don't sit worrying about a disease that kills people age 82.4 on average.

Here's the Times confirming that stat

Average age of coronavirus fatalities is 82 | News | The Times


But I will tell you what I am concerned about. Undiagnosed and untreated cancer, heart disease, eye operations etc and removal of rights people have taken for granted for generations with unlawful restrictions. Unlawful you say? Yes, feel free to find Lord Sumption, the best legal brain in the country, where he explains exactly why lock-downs are unlawful and how the government has tried to implement them via laws that only apply to sick people. There are no laws allowing quarantining of healthy people.

And here's a link where he explains it all 'Government by decree - Covid-19 and the Constitution': Lord Sumption - YouTube

 

[AtW]

and removal of rights people have taken for granted for generations with unlawful restrictions.

Here we go ...