Basic income for all?

[DimPrawn]

Which is, of course, precisely what the experiment demonstrated did not happen. But why let reality get in the way of a fondly-held prejudice based on no facts whatsoever, eh?

Leftie "economist" at a leftie uni during the leftie 1970's....Yeah that's all fact that is...

Bring back National Service, and hanging, public ones at that!

[Mordac]

If any of you code monkeys can code your way in to getting the robotty lass into giving you a decent blowy, then it's probably the best you can ever hope for...

[NotAllThere]

Don't like it.

If you are retirement age - state pension
If you are disabled - disability pay
If you are working - tax breaks and PAYE
if you are running a business - tax breaks and dividends
If you are a lazy fecker of working age - feck all! - get a fooking job!

It probably won't go through, but it if it does, it will be interesting to see what will happen. I first heard about this idea back in the 80s, from a member of a Tory think-tank. The idea was to remove the trap where people in receipt of benefit aren't put off finding work, because they then lose the benefit. People who are unable to work for medical reasons would get the minimum + extras.

[Andy2]

Next 20-30 years will be interesting
manufacturing jobs and many service sector jobs like in fast food industry will also be done by robots.
Taxi driver jobs will be done by self driving cars
The only jobs remaining will be robot maintenance engineers and coders

[DimPrawn]

Next 20-30 years will be interesting
manufacturing jobs and many service sector jobs like in fast food industry will also be done by robots.
Taxi driver jobs will be done by self driving cars
The only jobs remaining will be robot maintenance engineers and coders

Polish engineers + Indian coders.

Luckily I will be retired/dead by then.

[MrMarkyMark]

Polish engineers + Indian coders.

Luckily I will be retired/dead by then.

What about the Bulgarians or the Romanians plenty to go round

[scooterscot]

Sounds good. But I do dislike this view:

"With a wave of technological change on its way, driverless cars, robotic surgery, the elimination of finance and accounting jobs, clearly there is going to be a huge disappearance of jobs.
"No one can really explain where the new jobs are coming from, so it would be foolish for a country not to prepare for what may be the greatest technological revolution in the history of the world."

It's a bit like me buying that pair of trousers two sizes two small because of the extra pounds I now know I'll never shift.

New technology should create new jobs to improve efficiency not transfer us to be a bunch of slobs.

[Andy2]

its time to move to switzerland and watch telly and drink beer all day

[NickFitz]

New technology should create new jobs to improve efficiency not transfer us to be a bunch of slobs.

Why? If technology can eliminate much of the need for people to work, why not let it, rather than forcing it into the role of "creating new jobs" just to occupy people's time?

The wealthy seem to have managed pretty well on not having to do an awful lot for centuries. It's about time more of us had a go at it

[scooterscot]

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Why? If technology can eliminate much of the need for people to work, why not let it, rather than forcing it into the role of "creating new jobs" just to occupy people's time?

The wealthy seem to have managed pretty well on not having to do an awful lot for centuries. It's about time more of us had a go at it

Sounds fair enough. However I'd rather think this new ruling takes us one step closer to finding a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life.

It seems to me the Qeenie is worked off her feet with that hobnobbing.