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    "Hypothetical"

    Here's a "hypothetical" question.

    Phone call last Friday from my pimp saying I will be extended for 6 months. I was expecting this as all the feedback from the client has been good and only last week I was assigned a new project which would take about six months to complete.

    This morning agency rings up saying the extension is for one month only.

    Now, lets say the agency, to increase their margin, asked for an increase in the rates without telling me, or rather said to the client I wanted more money, which I don't and didn't.

    The client said no we're not paying more and so the agency have asked me to leave in one month even though I know there is work for another six and they are happy with my work.

    As the agency is ending our agreement, am I entitled to go direct to the client without informing the agency as per their handcuff clause?
    Last edited by Scotchpie; 28 September 2009, 13:55.

    #2
    You could try to go direct but the client will have handcuff clauses too and will be scared to enter into agreements that leave him open to litigation.

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      #3
      Now, lets say the agency, to increase their margin, asked for an increase in the rates without telling me, or rather said to the client I wanted more money, which I don't and didn't.
      To be honest this could also come under the heading of Pure Fantasy as well. How about other more reasonable explainations like money and budget is tight, client is fighting his budget people as he wants you but they don't want a 5 figure commitment so they give him a month. This is passed on to you by the pimp. This one month could be extended 6 times, every day at 4pm on the last friday (it happened to me!!) and there you go. You got paid as expected.

      That along with umpteen other reasonable situations.

      Surely if you beatin yourself up over stuff like this and trying to second guess the situation your just gonna wind yourself in to a froth for nothing.

      It's the way it is and we are bottom of the chain sometimes.
      'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Scotchpie View Post
        Here's a "hypothetical" question.

        Phone call last Friday from my pimp saying I will be extended for 6 months. I was expecting this as all the feedback from the client has been good and only last week I was assigned a new project which would take about six months to complete.

        This morning agency rings up saying the extension is for one month only.

        Now, lets say the agency, to increase their margin, asked for an increase in the rates without telling me, or rather said to the client I wanted more money, which I don't and didn't.

        The client said no we're not paying more and so the agency have asked me to leave in one month even though I know there is work for another six and they are happy with my work.

        As the agency is ending our agreement, am I entitled to go direct to the client without informing the agency as per their handcuff clause?
        Er, have you actually spoken to the client?

        I'd get their side of the story first before taking things any further. If they are prepared to take you on - even if via a different agency - then you can start your move. However, as others have pointed out, the client is unlikely to do that because of handcuff clauses in the contract they signed.

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          #5
          Originally posted by nomadd View Post
          Er, have you actually spoken to the client?

          I'd get their side of the story first before taking things any further. If they are prepared to take you on - even if via a different agency - then you can start your move. However, as others have pointed out, the client is unlikely to do that because of handcuff clauses in the contract they signed.

          Nomadd
          WHS!

          speak to the client, politely enquire as to why it's only a 1 month extension, likelyhood of what will happen after that, pretty reasonable thing to ask.

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            #6
            One one job I was told 'we would like to extend your contract but we can't afford the pay rise you have asked for' - I hadn't, it was the agency trying to get more more money (which they wouldn't be passing on to me).

            As soon as I am offered an extension I now always tell the client that story and tell them that I am not asking for a rise (if I am not). I've always had a positive reaction, most clients don't like or trust the agents either!

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              #7
              Originally posted by BlueElise View Post
              One one job I was told 'we would like to extend your contract but we can't afford the pay rise you have asked for' - I hadn't, it was the agency trying to get more more money (which they wouldn't be passing on to me).

              As soon as I am offered an extension I now always tell the client that story and tell them that I am not asking for a rise (if I am not). I've always had a positive reaction, most clients don't like or trust the agents either!
              Well I stand corrected. I am getting used to the techniques the pimps use but obviously still a few nasty surprises around. This is good information thank you very much.

              Will leave my original post as it is as I still think the general idea of my message fits.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #8
                If there's business practice I can't stand, it's lying and game-playing. I have to say agencies and HR departments seem to have this down to a T. I wouldn't spit on either of them if they were on fire.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TFour View Post
                  If there's business practice I can't stand, it's lying and game-playing. I have to say agencies and HR departments seem to have this down to a T. I wouldn't spit on either of them if they were on fire.
                  Now, now - that's a bit harsh...surely agents deserve to be spit on under all circumstances?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                    To be honest this could also come under the heading of Pure Fantasy as well. How about other more reasonable explainations like money and budget is tight, client is fighting his budget people as he wants you but they don't want a 5 figure commitment so they give him a month. This is passed on to you by the pimp. This one month could be extended 6 times, every day at 4pm on the last friday (it happened to me!!) and there you go. You got paid as expected.

                    That along with umpteen other reasonable situations.

                    Surely if you beatin yourself up over stuff like this and trying to second guess the situation your just gonna wind yourself in to a froth for nothing.

                    It's the way it is and we are bottom of the chain sometimes.
                    WHS.
                    I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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