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Been offered an inside IR35 contract role.
I am now being asked to choose between 'Umbrella', 'Umbrella CIS' and 'PAYE'.
This may be a dumb question but what is the difference?
I always thought that there were basically two types
Umbrella/PAYE = Inside IR35
Ltd Company = Outside IR35
I feel I...
As a bit of an aside, do I detect a distinct change in tone in this thread over the years?
Early bullishness seemed to have evolved into a resigned defeatism that we have no option but to accept our lot, however unjust it may be. It's very 2021. There were no change in regulations in the last...
OK. Well, although I still have a slight bitter feeling about it, you have helped me see it in a more reasoned and practical light, so thankyou for sharing your views and thoughts.
I have been offered a permanent role before, so the chances are definitely some way above nil!
Interesting point that the opt out status probably won't have a bearing in the real world.
I think they have lied. Regulation 32(13) states that the agency should not make the provision of their services conditional on entering into an opt-out.
Opt in, opt out? What the agency regs are all about (part 2) (contractoruk.com).
You probably have a point on the bigger picture though -...
Your first paragraph is essentially what has already happened.
Your 2nd paragraph has been formulated without a key bit of info. Without giving too much away, I am in a specialist industry where consultants are quite sought after. ....and the agent competes with other Agencies chasing the same...
I am not convinced it is useless. Opting out seems to throw obstacles in the way of the client ever offering a permanent role, or at least making it much more costly.
But equally, I do get the overall sense that it might not be the hill to die on.
Yes.
I feel they likely lied to me, saying I had no choice but to opt out in order to start the role - which doesn't seem to be true (from reading this thread).
However I realise there are handcuffs in the contract that keep me with the agent for 12 months after contract (which I see from one...
I would have thought the Agents reputation with the client would go down the pan very quickly. They have signed with the client too.
It seems like a case of who blinks first.
Re: Last sentence.
Hasn't the almost universal view on this thread been that it is better NOT to opt out?
Wouldn't I be...
Well it has worked like that. The main contract has been signed by all parties, start time agreed, just the 'opt-out' left to the side ignored and un-signed.
It wasn't so much a case of refusing to sign, more a case of ignoring the opt out form they sent me. I assumed by ignoring it meant I...