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Recent content by JamesC34

  1. J

    Umbrella v Umbrella CIS v PAYE

    You seem to know your stuff. So what is better in your opinion? PAYE or umbrella? It is a 6 month outside IR35 contract.
  2. J

    Umbrella v Umbrella CIS v PAYE

    Been offered an inside IR35 contract role. I am now being asked to choose between 'Umbrella', 'Umbrella CIS' and 'PAYE'. This may be a dumb question but what is the difference? I always thought that there were basically two types Umbrella/PAYE = Inside IR35 Ltd Company = Outside IR35 I feel I...
  3. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    Sorry you have lost me. Who will the agency back down from?
  4. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    As a bit of an aside, do I detect a distinct change in tone in this thread over the years? Early bullishness seemed to have evolved into a resigned defeatism that we have no option but to accept our lot, however unjust it may be. It's very 2021. There were no change in regulations in the last...
  5. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    Yes agreed. We were just discussing the same thing - the situation is comically contradictory and ridiculous. Kafkaesque is a good. description.
  6. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    Thanks. That is pretty much the clincher then. They have the cards.
  7. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    OK. Well, although I still have a slight bitter feeling about it, you have helped me see it in a more reasoned and practical light, so thankyou for sharing your views and thoughts.
  8. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    I have been offered a permanent role before, so the chances are definitely some way above nil! Interesting point that the opt out status probably won't have a bearing in the real world.
  9. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    I think they have lied. Regulation 32(13) states that the agency should not make the provision of their services conditional on entering into an opt-out. Opt in, opt out? What the agency regs are all about (part 2) (contractoruk.com). You probably have a point on the bigger picture though -...
  10. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    Your first paragraph is essentially what has already happened. Your 2nd paragraph has been formulated without a key bit of info. Without giving too much away, I am in a specialist industry where consultants are quite sought after. ....and the agent competes with other Agencies chasing the same...
  11. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    I am not convinced it is useless. Opting out seems to throw obstacles in the way of the client ever offering a permanent role, or at least making it much more costly. But equally, I do get the overall sense that it might not be the hill to die on.
  12. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    Really? So can a Ltd opt in and still be outside IR35?
  13. J

    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    Yes. I feel they likely lied to me, saying I had no choice but to opt out in order to start the role - which doesn't seem to be true (from reading this thread). However I realise there are handcuffs in the contract that keep me with the agent for 12 months after contract (which I see from one...
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    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    I would have thought the Agents reputation with the client would go down the pan very quickly. They have signed with the client too. It seems like a case of who blinks first. Re: Last sentence. Hasn't the almost universal view on this thread been that it is better NOT to opt out? Wouldn't I be...
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    Opt out of Conduct of employment agencies 2003 act?

    Well it has worked like that. The main contract has been signed by all parties, start time agreed, just the 'opt-out' left to the side ignored and un-signed. It wasn't so much a case of refusing to sign, more a case of ignoring the opt out form they sent me. I assumed by ignoring it meant I...

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