November 22nd - The death of contracting as we know it

[Guvernator]

These are my thoughts also, in fact wasn't the IR35 rumour going to the private sector actually started because someone stated they'd hired a contractor to work on this exact problem so either

A) They didn't have time to complete the research (typical contractor dragging it out to maximise billing )

B) The research was inconclusive, ie they didn't get the answer they wanted

or

C) All the public pressure, people writing to MP's etc made them do a last minute u-turn.

I'd love to see what was on that last minute note that Hammond was alleged to have been passed, just before he started his speech.

I'm hoping it was something like

"Phil we've been knobbled, whatever you do, don't mention IR35

Love Tess xx"

[webberg]

Seems to suggest that research on extending IR35 to the private sector has already been commissioned and will be reported next year.

Any guesses as to the answer?

It is important I think that the reform to public sector was couched as having "increased compliance". If that is the focus rather than the effect on the end client and the economy as a whole, it rather suggests that the position is already loaded.

I'm going to stop commenting here after this as we are working on something (see elsewhere) and I don't want to be accused of sneaky advertising etc.

[Unix]

There will be a consultation on how to tackle non-compliance in the private sector, but AFAIK there is no timeline on when the consultation will start or end. There will be external research from government next year and there will be many more fights around this issue over the coming months and (probably) years.

But well done to everyone who helped to get this kicked down the road - let's continue the fight and get it kicked further and further away from us all.

My guess is they are still performing analysis on the impact on the public sector, it will take a few years for the full effects to become known.

[TheFaQQer]

So what happened? we get away with it for a bit longer? is there a link to that red book thing?

There will be a consultation on how to tackle non-compliance in the private sector, but AFAIK there is no timeline on when the consultation will start or end. There will be external research from government next year and there will be many more fights around this issue over the coming months and (probably) years.

But well done to everyone who helped to get this kicked down the road - let's continue the fight and get it kicked further and further away from us all.

[SteelyDan]

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...t_2017_web.pdf

cheers

[TheFaQQer]

So what happened? we get away with it for a bit longer? is there a link to that red book thing?

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...t_2017_web.pdf

[SteelyDan]

So what happened? we get away with it for a bit longer? is there a link to that red book thing?

[boxingbantz]

April 2019 it is then...

[Unix]

IPSE are tweeting that there will be a consultation on IR35 in the private sector in 2018.

Tories will be out by then, so all good.

[MarkT]

Section 3.7 of the Red Book (see above)

Yep I was posting as you were so we crossed.

As Blackadder once said, I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell.