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Anyone test drive \ bought the Renault Zoe?

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    #11
    An arc reactor is what we need

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      #12
      Originally posted by kingcook View Post
      Was I the only one to get excited then, thinking this was some device that could generate petrol?
      If you attach the output to a big enough battery and run it in reverse...
      Coffee's for closers

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        #13
        Was at an exhibition at the weekend and saw a Renault Twizy along with the Zoe.

        Looks like a fun run around, if you are 5' tall and weigh less than 12 stone.
        Never has a man been heard to say on his death bed that he wishes he'd spent more time in the office.

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          #14
          Originally posted by eek View Post
          its a lot of money for what it is.

          Granted there is no road tax but its still £840 a year for batteries.

          A diesel supermini would probably have the same road tax (or very little more), cost the same a month to fuel and have a far more reliable resell value.
          I dont think it is expensive for what it is after the £5k 'grant' by HMG is taken into account. For a super mini, its not really more than a corsa etc.

          Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
          If the point is to save money, then spending the same as you would on fuel on hiring batteries seems rather ridiculous.

          How does a proper charge point differ from a 3 pin plug? I guess it could give you the full 30A of the ring rather than 13A.

          The real killer for electric cars is not the cost, the range, or even the availability of charge points. It's the recharge time. If they ever become popular expect to see lots of them on the back of AA trucks.
          You could very easily pay more than 70 quid a month on fuel (diesel or unleaded) so I dont agree it seems ridiculous hiring the batteries. In fact, hiring the batteries is a sensible option when you look into it. If you've bought another LV such as the Leaf, if the batteries fail to charge more than 70%, your fracked. Hiring them, Renault will replace FOC.

          As regards the charging point, it allows you to charge the car in 3.5 hours as opposed to 9 hours via the normal 13 amp socket although this slow charge option is still present.

          You are correct about the limited range though. But if you are just doing around town journeys of 30 to 40 miles a day (sometimes she never goes out in the car), an LV like the Zoe will be a viable alternative.

          Put it this way, if you are doing that mileage in a new diesel which must have a dpf by law, you'll soon clog it up and have all sorts of issues. Using a modern diesel as other suggest as an alternative and doing town mileage is a recipe for disaster for the car and financially as you'll never see the cost \ benefit of a diesel doing that kind of mileage.
          I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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            #15
            Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
            I dont think it is expensive for what it is after the £5k 'grant' by HMG is taken into account. For a super mini, its not really more than a corsa etc.



            You could very easily pay more than 70 quid a month on fuel (diesel or unleaded) so I dont agree it seems ridiculous hiring the batteries. In fact, hiring the batteries is a sensible option when you look into it. If you've bought another LV such as the Leaf, if the batteries fail to charge more than 70%, your fracked. Hiring them, Renault will replace FOC.

            As regards the charging point, it allows you to charge the car in 3.5 hours as opposed to 9 hours via the normal 13 amp socket although this slow charge option is still present.

            You are correct about the limited range though. But if you are just doing around town journeys of 30 to 40 miles a day (sometimes she never goes out in the car), an LV like the Zoe will be a viable alternative.

            Put it this way, if you are doing that mileage in a new diesel which must have a dpf by law, you'll soon clog it up and have all sorts of issues. Using a modern diesel as other suggest as an alternative and doing town mileage is a recipe for disaster for the car and financially as you'll never see the cost \ benefit of a diesel doing that kind of mileage.
            So pick a one of those new 1 litre ford fiestas and use that.

            Ford Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost 125 Titanium 5dr 2012
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              #16
              Originally posted by eek View Post
              So pick a one of those new 1 litre ford fiestas and use that.

              Ford Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost 125 Titanium 5dr 2012
              Yeah and in 3 years time, trade that £12600 two owner ford in and see how much you get back. You'd be lucky to see £6000.

              Look, I know you can buy second hand super minis cheaper and there may be resistance to the Zoe or it may not be everyone's cup of tea. LV's like the Leaf dont stack up because of the way the car is parcelled and range will always be a limiting factor with LV cars and current battery technowlogy. But, I was wanting to know if anyone had real life ownership experience of it. I know the foibles of a small ic engined car. Personally, I'd rather walk than buy a ford though!
              I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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                #17
                Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
                Yeah and in 3 years time, trade that £12600 two owner ford in and see how much you get back. You'd be lucky to see £6000.

                Look, I know you can buy second hand super minis cheaper and there may be resistance to the Zoe or it may not be everyone's cup of tea. LV's like the Leaf dont stack up because of the way the car is parcelled and range will always be a limiting factor with LV cars and current battery technowlogy. But, I was wanting to know if anyone had real life ownership experience of it. I know the foibles of a small ic engined car. Personally, I'd rather walk than buy a ford though!
                All new cars are going to cost you £6000+ in depreciation over 3 years.

                There is a counter argument here The LlewBlog - Electric Cars - The Renault Zoe: A non Review which interestingly points out that the car is only officially available from June 7th.
                merely at clientco for the entertainment

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