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Previously on "Best undercoat & gloss paint for exterior wood boards"

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  • SteelyDan
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    I should have maybe added, after speaking to the painter guy he recommended getting 'trade' versions of paint as the seemingly same stuff you could get from B&Q (Sandtex, Dulux et al) are weaker paints with less durability, despite what they might say on the tin. Obviously for outside stuff you want the paint to be a durable as possible. Given, it's more expensive, but I reckon it's the better way to go, especially if it reduces frequency of painting.
    We had trade sandtex masonry on front face of the house, called 'extreme exposure' with 'allegedly' "20 years proven durability"! I'll keep you posted.
    Last edited by SteelyDan; 19 September 2019, 15:49.

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  • DoctorStrangelove
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    I used some stuff from B&Q which seems much better than the run of the mill crap I used before.

    I'll see what the tin says when I get home.

    It's alleged to last 10 years.

    However it doesn't play nicely with old paint so it's a case of sanding back to bare wood before applying the primer.

    Be cautious if the paint is really old coz it'll have lead in it.

    "Sandtex 10 year exterior gloss", ditto primer.

    It's been up on the soffits since 2011 and looks ok.

    The primer really doesn't like having older paint beneath it which meant I had to redo the first bit where I hadn't been aggressive enough with the sander (i.e. an angle grinder with a sanding disc in it).


    I forgot to mention that you can't clean the brushes with turps substitute but that stuff from Lidl which is full of other things does the job extremely well.
    Last edited by DoctorStrangelove; 19 September 2019, 17:03.

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  • SteelyDan
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    You want the Zinsser products. I've just used it to paint the outside of my UPvc windows and looking good so far. I used the Bullseye primer due to the glossy surface and the Satin All Coat on top. I put the Matt on at first and didn't like it so went Satin and it looks great. Mat is quite a rough surface so picked up dirt much easier.

    Might be different for wood with regards to Satin/Matt/Gloss finishes so just pick the one most suitable for you.

    Our Products - Zinsser UK

    I bought mine from Rawlins paints as they also have a helpline to chat about the requirements which was useful.

    Industrial Paint & Specialist Coating Distributors | Rawlins Paints

    The only pain in the arse is it needs decent weather paint and a couple (up to 5) days of dry weather to cure which is almost unheard of in my parts.
    Yeah but Zinsser is used (as far as I'm aware) for 'difficult' surfaces, where you might struggle to get the base coat to take & there's a risk of it peeling/cracking if you were to use conventional primers/undercoats. I've used it twice as a stain blocker where it's really good though (ceiling). However, if the OP is talking about soffits (wood on the underside of fascias), then these are probably already painted, so he might not need the Zinsser stuff.

    We had all our upper wooden soffits & fascias done this year, I did the lower stuff myself earlier in the year using dulux weathershield primer and gloss. Lots of rubbing down, 2 coats of primer, one gloss. Hard going tbh but it's a large area & it does look good, so I wouldn't totally 'diss' Dulux products.

    Guy who did the upper level used some self priming, gloss finish stuff which looks great - SADOLIN SUPERDEC GLOSS- 10 years protection, self priming and undercoating; he used 2 coats. I'll be using that when I redo the lower wood work in a couple of years time.

    Outside work is difficult though at this time as the temperatures are low so will affect drying time, plus need to watch out for moisture levels in the air or paint will just bubble and not take fully, then it'll all need sanding down again if you get it wrong.
    Last edited by SteelyDan; 19 September 2019, 07:41.

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  • contractorZ
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    I have used Blackfriar Liquid Driers to speed up paint drying when the weather has not been good.

    Was recommended to me by a decorator. Might be worth a try if you think the weather is cold

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  • northernladuk
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    You want the Zinsser products. I've just used it to paint the outside of my UPvc windows and looking good so far. I used the Bullseye primer due to the glossy surface and the Satin All Coat on top. I put the Matt on at first and didn't like it so went Satin and it looks great. Mat is quite a rough surface so picked up dirt much easier.

    Might be different for wood with regards to Satin/Matt/Gloss finishes so just pick the one most suitable for you.

    Our Products - Zinsser UK

    I bought mine from Rawlins paints as they also have a helpline to chat about the requirements which was useful.

    Industrial Paint & Specialist Coating Distributors | Rawlins Paints

    The only pain in the arse is it needs decent weather paint and a couple (up to 5) days of dry weather to cure which is almost unheard of in my parts.

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  • ladymuck
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    It's all in the preparation. Make sure the wood is sound and well prepared before you start painting and the paint will last much longer.

    No idea about brands.

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  • OwlHoot
    started a topic Best undercoat & gloss paint for exterior wood boards

    Best undercoat & gloss paint for exterior wood boards

    Title moreorless says it all. What would peeps recommend as the best quality longest lasting paint for exterior wooden boards under eaves, including possibly other pre-treatment?

    TIA

    (I'm guessing Dulux isn't the answer. )

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