Demand for statisticians is crazy ...

[sasguru]

I can tell you why this is happening. There is no young blood in the industry, almost everyone is senior. Maths and life sciences are unpopular. The traditional routes into the industry are being dropped by the Universities because of the lack of demand. There are lots of Chinese but they usually have poor communication skills.

Hmmm, sort of mirrors what my mate was saying. But I think it is also a specific German and Swiss problem - they don't seem to be bringing through the right sorts of grads. The French and British pharmas don't seem to need to pay anywhere near as much.

Edit: DA, open an office in Basle/Zurich ...

[sasguru]

That'd be a no, then.

Whatever.

[GreenLabel]

Any examples? Current advertised roles? Jobserve, recruitment sites, etc?

Send your CV to any rec cons dealing with Pharma in germany or Switzerland.
With a stats MSc and the right experience you can get the figures I'm quoting.

That'd be a no, then.

[Bagpuss]

...Salaries for permies have reached 6 figures (in GBP) in Switzerland and Germany and are rising fast here.
One of my mates who's doing bog standard pharma work in Zurich is on the equivalent of £150k (permie)
And judging from the emails I'm getting this is standard.
Don't know what it's like in finance.

I can tell you why this is happening. There is no young blood in the industry, almost everyone is senior. Maths and life sciences are unpopular. The traditional routes into the industry are being dropped by the Universities because of the lack of demand. There are lots of Chinese but they usually have poor communication skills.

[sasguru]

What's the demand for semi-retired cretins like?

Poor, apparently.

[sasguru]

Any examples? Current advertised roles? Jobserve, recruitment sites, etc?

Send your CV to any rec cons dealing with Pharma in germany or Switzerland.
With a stats MSc and the right experience you can get the figures I'm quoting.

[GreenLabel]

...Salaries for permies have reached 6 figures (in GBP) in Switzerland and Germany and are rising fast here.
One of my mates who's doing bog standard pharma work in Zurich is on the equivalent of £150k (permie)
And judging from the emails I'm getting this is standard.
Don't know what it's like in finance.

Any examples? Current advertised roles? Jobserve, recruitment sites, etc?

[DimPrawn]

What's the demand for semi-retired cretins like?

[minestrone]

Actuaries have always done well.
I'm talking about people without the years of actuarial training - a simple Masters in Stats is sufficient for the big bucks nowadays. Could be a plan B for one or two on here.

hmm.

This is my last programming gig I have decided. Never going back to it again.

[sasguru]

I have loads of them in Eastern europe ready to flood the market and push the rates down

Do it ....market will still be good for 5-10 years till they get the experience. Better cash in now, eh?

[sasguru]

I know a few actuaries, they do alright.

Actuaries have always done well.
I'm talking about people without the years of actuarial training - a simple Masters in Stats is sufficient for the big bucks nowadays. Could be a plan B for one or two on here.

[DodgyAgent]

...Salaries for permies have reached 6 figures (in GBP) in Switzerland and Germany and are rising fast here.
One of my mates who's doing bog standard pharma work in Zurich is on the equivalent of £150k (permie)
And judging from the emails I'm getting this is standard.
Don't know what it's like in finance.

I have loads of them in Eastern europe ready to flood the market and push the rates down

[doodab]

I know a few actuaries, they do alright.

[sasguru]

...Salaries for permies have reached 6 figures (in GBP) in Switzerland and Germany and are rising fast here.
One of my mates who's doing bog standard pharma work in Zurich is on the equivalent of £150k (permie)
And judging from the emails I'm getting this is standard.
Don't know what it's like in finance.