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Originally posted by TheBigD View PostI think the heat may of played a part in England not pressing and defending deep.
Overall I thought we did pretty well. Expectations were rock bottom before the game so anything other than a thumping loss would have felt like a decent result.
I don't think Carrol would have done any better than Wellbeck/Young. I'd like to see the same lineup for the Sweden game.
Not expecting much from England. I'd be surprised if we get out of the group, even with a point against France, but at least we seem to be playing with some sort of identity i.e Defend deep, work the channels and nick a goal or two.
I guess I may have been too harsh by the comments from everyone but me!
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First game is usally nervous affair, they managed to get a point, they have some good youngsters who will shine , young, wellbeck and oxlade.
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Originally posted by Old Hack View PostNot really, it must be said, but it was dull, with a capital F in the second half. We didn't press France at all, and seemed to be happy defending a 1-1 draw. I watched the Ukraine/Sweden match too and it was much more open, with both teams wanting to win (although ultimately Swe were poor).
Just seemed like same old same old to me.
Overall I thought we did pretty well. Expectations were rock bottom before the game so anything other than a thumping loss would have felt like a decent result.
I don't think Carrol would have done any better than Wellbeck/Young. I'd like to see the same lineup for the Sweden game.
Not expecting much from England. I'd be surprised if we get out of the group, even with a point against France, but at least we seem to be playing with some sort of identity i.e Defend deep, work the channels and nick a goal or two.
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Originally posted by Doggy Styles View PostDo you understand football?
Just seemed like same old same old to me.
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Originally posted by Old Hack View PostI only watched the second half, in which I was treated to the harem scarem tactic often employed by woy; geta draw, defend like a group of scared teenage girls, hold on for 'brave' draw.
Second half was tulipe, I must have missed an absolute humdinger of a first half given the way papers, and colleagues, are going on abou it.
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Originally posted by Old Hack View PostI only watched the second half, in which I was treated to the harem scarem tactic often employed by woy; geta draw, defend like a group of scared teenage girls, hold on for 'brave' draw.
Second half was tulipe, I must have missed an absolute humdinger of a first half given the way papers, and colleagues, are going on abou it.
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Was actually a really good, high quality game. The French are excellent passers with players like Cabaye, Nasri, Ribery etc. England had several good spells of passing and were actually not that bad to watch.
Honestly this is the first time I feel the English players have not let down their fans in a very long time. They did the best they could and you can only ask that from them.....
I think the way forwards is to try to combine players from the 2 best english teams. defensive play by Hart, Lescott, Milner with attacking play of Welbeck, Rooney (when he is available), Young and maybe even throw Jones in there at half time to make a difference. Rooney and Welbeck already have a partnership at Man United so sod Carroll and Defoe. I also think Hart, Terry, Lescott, Cole, Johnson already have excellent understanding between themselves.
Overall couldn't have asked more from Hodgeson so far, especially with him starting AOX - shows he is willing to gamble a bit.
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Originally posted by Old Hack View Postdefend like a group of scared teenage girls, hold on for 'brave' draw.
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Originally posted by Doggy Styles View PostI thought Young and Welbeck did quite well personally, although they didn't see very much of the ball especially second half.
I think Rooney, if he was available, would have made the same difference but more so, so we have something to look forwards to.Last edited by doodab; 12 June 2012, 09:27.
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I only watched the second half, in which I was treated to the harem scarem tactic often employed by woy; geta draw, defend like a group of scared teenage girls, hold on for 'brave' draw.
Second half was tulipe, I must have missed an absolute humdinger of a first half given the way papers, and colleagues, are going on abou it.
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