Reply to: Halal Meat

[d000hg]

Not confused at all dear boy, but as usual you fail to understand a simple point. Where did I say that class equates to religion?

I never claimed you were equating the two, perhaps you were trying too hard reading between the lines.

You said fox-hunting was a middle/upper class Christian activity. From the fact you put "middle/upper class" before "Christian" I somehow arrived at the wacky idea you were linking the two, when in fact they aren't even slightly linked.

[petergriffin]

Cut out your racist crap pisshead.

Those who can't write send reps.

[Old Greg]

Still Haram, but is permitted

...But if one is compelled by necessity, neither craving (it) nor transgressing, there is no sin on him

11. Necessity Dictates Exceptions

So you can do it if you need to, but you can't enjoy it.....

Atheism is so simple.

[vetran]

Still Haram, but is permitted

...But if one is compelled by necessity, neither craving (it) nor transgressing, there is no sin on him

11. Necessity Dictates Exceptions

So you can do it if you need to, but you can't enjoy it.....

[Arturo Bassick]

I thought that if it acceptable then it is halal, but maybe not.

Take your for it then.

[Old Greg]

I dont think that is strictly true is it? Can pork ever be halal? I thought it just became "acceptable" when needs must.

I thought that if it acceptable then it is halal, but maybe not.

[vetran]

My understanding is that Islam & Judaism are quite forgiving in cases of necessity. You eat what you need to survive, a bit like Christianity its a target to avoid breaking the rules, sometimes its not possible.

It is also permissible to alter your behaviour (within limits) to fit in.

Stun the livestock & then slit them and most people wouldn't object.

Quite a reasonable summary here:
Stunning Animals - Halal or Haram? The Truth.

[Arturo Bassick]

Unless it is on a desert island and there is no other food available, in which case pork becomes halal.

I dont think that is strictly true is it? Can pork ever be halal? I thought it just became "acceptable" when needs must.

[Old Greg]

That's why it's clear the OP's Chinese takeaway is fibbing. You can't have halal sweet and sour pork.

Unless it is on a desert island and there is no other food available, in which case pork becomes halal.

[NotAllThere]

That's why it's clear the OP's Chinese takeaway is fibbing. You can't have halal sweet and sour pork.

[mudskipper]

Presumably there's no such thing as halal/kosher pork? Sorted. Eat Bratwurst.

[Arturo Bassick]

It's really not that bad i don't think.

The animal probably gets so shocked it doesn't have a clue what's going on and it's over in less than a minute.

I definitely wouldn't class it as barbaric.

That is how it used to be done all over the UK. Then the law was changed as it was deemed a cruel and barbaric method of slaughter and a requirement to stun the animal first was brought in.
Slaughter houses didnt used to be well policed so the stun guns were often misused but when used properly they are very effective.

You say it is not that bad. Think about that for a minute. If we were killing you do you think you would be more stressed if it was sudden black out or would you prefer to be strung up by your feet and have your throat cut?

[Arturo Bassick]

Middle/upper-class has absolutely squat to do with Christianity. You're confusing culture and cultural stereotypes with a foreign religion.

Not confused at all dear boy, but as usual you fail to understand a simple point. Where did I say that class equates to religion?
The whole post is explaining to another fuqwit that my objection is not anti Islam so I used an example that is some distance from it.
Sorry you and chief Cock couldnt get that.

[thelurker]

What about the sausages and bacon

[Robinho]

It's really not that bad i don't think.

The animal probably gets so shocked it doesn't have a clue what's going on and it's over in less than a minute.

I definitely wouldn't class it as barbaric.