Reply to: Global Brrrrr Warming affecting shipping

[SizeZero]

you are missing the scientific point. If there is more water in the sea, ipso facto, there must be less in my beer.

So how much beer do we have to drink to get sea levels back to normal, and how many man-hours drinking? Will having more icecubes in cocktails help counter the shrinking icecaps and how many polar bears will be saved?

[BlasterBates]

Morner is eccentric.....but is his viewpoint incorrect?

most certainly not

doesn't look to me like the accelerating sea level rises.

Of course you draw a thick black line to "hide the flattening" but it is pretty self evident.

Still we'll see.

[Spacecadet]

Morner could, in his prime, which was arguably when he was president of INQUA Commission on Sea Level Change, have made a legitimate claim to be one of the world's foremost experts on sea level, however he is now retired and as PIB points out, INQUA have had to clarify that he no longer speaks for them and his views are at odd with theirs, and indeed with those of the vast majority of scientists.
In his retirement, he seems to fulfil the public stereotype of the eccentric scientist pretty well, spending his spare time out with his dowsing rods

Hopefully no one ever comes up with a carbon neutral way of burning people at the stake

[Spacecadet]

Scotland is actually rising, while England sinks...probally as a result of all those Scots moving South to end civilisation

FTFY

Fixed your fix

when we stop having to bail out scottish banks you can have your fix back

[pjclarke]

Morner could, in his prime, which was arguably when he was president of INQUA Commission on Sea Level Change, have made a legitimate claim to be one of the world's foremost experts on sea level, however he is now retired and as PIB points out, INQUA have had to clarify that he no longer speaks for them and his views are at odd with theirs, and indeed with those of the vast majority of scientists.
In his retirement, he seems to fulfil the public stereotype of the eccentric scientist pretty well, spending his spare time out with his dowsing rods

[shaunbhoy]

Scotland is actually rising, while England sinks...probally as a result of all those Scots moving South to bring civilisation

FTFY

[Paddy]

Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm".


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...-ever-told.htm

[hyperD]

you are missing the scientific point. If there is more water in the sea, ipso facto, there must be less in my beer.

Ah yes, the Hogsback Uncertainty Principle: beer can neither be created nor consumed without knowing either its relative position on the bar, or its gulping velocity, but not both at the same time.

Probably.

[Troll]

Nah, I think the islands are just getting older and like ma dear ol' mam, shrinking with age and osteoporosis.

Scotland is actually rising, while England sinks...probally as a result of all those Scots moving South to civilisation

[EternalOptimist]

Nah, I think the islands are just getting older and like ma dear ol' mam, shrinking with age and osteoporosis.

you are missing the scientific point. If there is more water in the sea, ipso facto, there must be less in my beer.

Bring it on the boys from the met office

[hyperD]

sea levels around the uk have risen 3 cm in the last ten years

Nah, I think the islands are just getting older and like ma dear ol' mam, shrinking with age and osteoporosis.

[pjclarke]

Weather <> Climate

Jonas Lindvall, the controller of the icebreaking unit at the maritime administration, said sea ice in the area would not normally have been a problem for merchant ships.

However, onshore winds of about 72km/h (45mph) had pushed the ice rapidly towards the coast and created ridges which the merchant ships could not cope with, he said. Icebreakers subsequently had to be deployed by both Sweden and Finland.

"They got caught outside the archipelago, where there is moving ice. It's hard to navigate," Mr Lindvall told the AFP news agency, adding he had not seen so many ships stuck at once since the mid-1980s.

The weather conditions are expected to improve on Friday.

[Xenophon]

There were two bald assertions in their website, which are interesting.

The hairless bastards.

[EternalOptimist]

The met office released its report today reaffirming its support for AGW science and warning of the consequences of not acting.

There were two stark assertions in their website, which are interesting.

Sea levels around the uk have risen 10cm in the last hundred and ten years

sea levels around the uk have risen 3 cm in the last ten years


might be worth a scrute

[hyperD]

Thanks for the new sig.

You're welcome my crustaceanal amigo . Purely for my own vanity, may I be so bold as to ask you kindly in prefixing my name to your sig?