Reply to: Warning Geeks!

[Diver]

More worrying is the thought of ZG hairdressing

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[BA to the Stars]

So, what you are saying is if we do not hear from ZG for a while......

More worrying is the thought of ZG hairdressing

[Peoplesoft bloke]

....... Space-dude get's [sic] an Orange jumpsuit.
Watch out contractors - it could be you!

No chance of me having the technical know-how. I don't care about UFOs. I do already have the jumpsuit - it's ex-oil rig - was at the tip on Sunday - tip worker shouts "look that bloke's escaped from jail"

[ace00]

This guy is never guilty. Here's the story:

The entire IT systems / networks department f**ked up and left their network wide open.
This fool walked in looking for UFOs.
Walked out again leaving big, dirty footprints.
The 1 person in the building who knew what they were doing (there's always 1) traced the IP, reported to telco.
Telco traces back to North London address.
Rather than admit that they are clueless gimps DoD IT hit the nuclear button (now known as the terrorist button).
DoD gimp boys remain in their very well-paying jobs. Space-dude get's an Orange jumpsuit.
Watch out contractors - it could be you!

[Diver]

Indeed. I reckon he should have been prosecuted in the UK. But we have to do want the Americans want - I am not sure why...

Apparently they have the inalienable right to be prosecuted in their own country (USA). We have the inalienable right to be prosecuted in their country too (USA).

All your criminals belong U.S

[BrilloPad]

Guilty or not he will not get a fair trial in the States.

Indeed. I reckon he should have been prosecuted in the UK. But we have to do want the Americans want - I am not sure why...

[The Lone Gunman]

Guilty or not he will not get a fair trial in the States.

[ace00]

Actually took a look at this story and it is an interesting case. I think the curx is this:
"Allegations include copying and deleting data and causing damage which cost more than 700,000 dollars to repair. "
In other words, not so much accessing the systems, but what you do when there.
If true then it's a straight up criminal case and he should take the plea, serve 24 months, ghost-write a book, retire. I hope it goes well for the lad though, obviousley just a case of Geekish larking about gone wrong.

[DaveB]

Trying to hide it more like!!!

I'm sure our lizardy friend is more than capable of knocking up a Pinch of suitable capacity to erase anything incriminating if he needs to

[ace00]

I'm imagining some kind of mincing hairdresser - geek freak hybrid.

[The Lone Gunman]

Why would I be looking for evidence of UFOs...

Trying to hide it more like!!!

[ft101]

Plenty of examples too of 'various government agencies' leaving default passwords or even anonymous accounts open on internet services, such as FTP.

What I find more interesting, is not so much how he did it, but how they detected and substantiated the activities.

Also this is yet another example of our spineless 'leaders' giving in to the bully and allowing extradition. This guy should have been tried in the UK.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

The Yanks are just embarrassed that their ultra-secure systems are so full of holes; that people can just stroll in and poke around.
Their thinking - If they can't make the system secure, make examples of the people who wander in for a look around innit

Correct - although according to that article many of the systems were MS Windows based and hadn't had security patches applied and some didn't have password protection.

[Diver]

The Yanks are just embarrassed that their ultra-secure systems are so full of holes; that people can just stroll in and poke around.
Their thinking - If they can't make the system secure, make examples of the people who wander in for a look around innit

[daviejones]

But for some, his method of hacking is not nearly so interesting as his reason for doing it.

Not for me - I want to know how, not why

Mr McKinnon got his first computer when he was 14 years old, and has been a hobbyist ever since. He left school at 17, and became a hairdresser. But, in the early 1990s, some friends convinced him to get a qualification in computers. After completing a course, he started doing contract work in the computing field.

So, what you are saying is if we do not hear from ZG for a while......