Reply to: How come the Frogs can get away with this?

[Diver]

I won't feel anything. I'll be dead. Wait a minute the hospitals got paid so no tax money of mine was used. Obviously there is spare capacity if the hospital can accommodate EU citizens.

I didn't see anything in the article to worry me at all. Its a non-story.

For the Transplant op, Not for the harvesting of the organ or for the increased and extended care of the waiting British patient.

There is no spare capacity, The NHS is desperate for Organs for British patients. these hospitals that are catering for visitors are ripping off the system.

We'll see if your attitude changes if (God forbid) one of your loved ones dies for want of a transplant.

But then again, I doubt it. You'll just say "Didn't cost me anything" Ignorance is bliss

[lilelvis2000]

Don't you believe in fairness.

How do you feel knowing that an organ you donate freely to save lives, will be sold abroad to a foreign government.

That Your National Insurance and Tax is being used to subsidise the denial of British citizens the right to life.


No! Don't even bother answering.

One day maybe you will lay dying in a hospital bed for want of an organ transplant, while they prep the foreigner in the bed next to you who is going to get the organ that you need, because the NHS sold it

I won't feel anything. I'll be dead. Wait a minute the hospitals got paid so no tax money of mine was used. Obviously there is spare capacity if the hospital can accomodate EU citizens.

I didn't see anything in the article to worry me at all. Its a non-story.

[BrilloPad]

Allah, Allah, who the fook is Allah?

If they pay my council tax I don't care!

[Diver]

So? Don't you believe in a free market?

Don't you believe in fairness.

How do you feel knowing that an organ you donate freely to save lives, will be sold abroad to a foreign government.

That Your National Insurance and Tax is being used to subsidise the denial of British citizens the right to life.


No! Don't even bother answering.

One day maybe you will lay dying in a hospital bed for want of an organ transplant, while they prep the foreigner in the bed next to you who is going to get the organ that you need, because the NHS sold it

[lilelvis2000]

So? Don't you believe in a free market?

[Diver]

The hospital got paid. Yawn.

If you had read my post you would have picked out the fact that I did not say free.
The hospitals are selling our body parts to foreign governments/visitors and thus denying them to us.

A London hospital has been referred to health watchdogs after concerns that too many liver transplants are being given to foreign patients.

The Healthcare Commission was alerted after 72 non-British EU nationals were given new livers in four years at King’s College Hospital.

Of those, 37 were given to Greek and Cypriot nationals in what were classed as “private” operations.

But the hospital said non-UK patients could not “buy” a transplant.

It said the figures were an anomaly caused because the Greek and Cypriot governments operate a different funding arrangement with the Department of Health than other states.

Most countries pay the Government a block fee to cover their citizens’ treatment in the UK. However, Greece and Cyprus pay hospitals directly on a patient-by-patient basis and so the procedures are classed as “private”.

>Sheesh<

[lilelvis2000]

The hospital got paid. Yawn.

[Diver]

So what you're saying is British people have a great right to life than someone else? Is that it?

BTW: any evidence of this bold claim?

So what you are implying is that the British who pay for the transplants, who donate the organs have less right to them than people who do not donate organs & who do not fund the NHS surgery?


evidence? There's plenty online

[ace00]

So what you're saying is British people have a great right to life than someone else? Is that it?

Yes. In Britain.

Another scam is to turn up from aformentioned s**thole, claim to be gay (try a bit of eye-liner, should fool 'em) and claim human rights. Once you got the passport, continue as normal.

[TheBigYinJames]

So what you're saying is British people have a great right to life than someone else? Is that it?
BTW: any evidence of this bold claim?

British organs for British workers!

[lilelvis2000]

And there are people dying in this country for the want of organs that NHS hospitals are giving to foreign visitors who have only come here for a transplant.

So what you're saying is British people have a great right to life than someone else? Is that it?

BTW: any evidence of this bold claim?

[lilelvis2000]

This is already the case in the UK. My Wife (who is from Thailand) has to have a certificate saying she has learnt English in order to convert her current Visa to one that gives her indefinate leave to remain. To become a citizen she will need to take a course on Life in the UK.

She can of course renew the current visa but this happens every 2 years and that also means that you have to go through various hassles with immigration every 2 years and pay the £300+ fee.

I'd have to ask my wife..but I think that fee is well above £300 now. But why bother with the tests...pay someone else to do them? The stories I could tell about the people that walk into my wife's office.

The lad yesterday..oh benefits? You mean I'm not allowed to be on benefits to sponsor my wife? But I am working! I can have some fake wage slips made up. give me a couple of hours. These guys have guts I tell ya.

[Diver]

Didn't the woman from Nigeria(?) with cancer try that? she got deported and died two weeks later.

And there are people dying in this country for the want of organs that NHS hospitals are giving to foreign visitors who have only come here for a transplant.

[lilelvis2000]

However if she were from a piss-poor African / ME country she could simply turn up in the UK, say she's an opposition political activist and Bob's yer uncle, indefinate leave to remain.

Didn't the woman from Nigeria(?) with cancer try that? she got deported and died two weeks later.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Have you tried C4's 4OD service?

Bah! only supports Windows PCs