Reply to: Russia's Undeniable War Preparations

[lexington_spurs]

As Nyquist rightly points out, although it is unpalatable to the average Westerner (particularly our silly "beyond war" generation), to whom even the faintest modicum of conflict and discomfort is unacceptable, Russian hostility and military preparations continue unabated.



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[Churchill]

It was a conspiracy...it was all the fault of McDonalds....

Those bloody Scots are at it again!

[Diver]

It was a conspiracy...it was all the fault of McDonalds....

They do have an undercover operation in Moscow

[daviejones]

You know what you can do with your opinion on 911.

It was a conspiracy...it was all the fault of McDonalds....

[2uk]

Watch Chomsky.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...35472755997043

In the meantime I will pray there is Hell so that you can burn there with your American freedom "fighters"

As Nyquist rightly points out, although it is unpalatable to the average Westerner (particularly our silly "beyond war" generation), to whom even the faintest modicum of conflict and discomfort is unacceptable, Russian hostility and military preparations continue unabated.



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[richard-af]

It'll be just like camping.

Talking about camp, how the hell are you richard?

You bitch!

[Churchill]

True, but the point is both = "Goodbye life as we know it" etc.

It'll be just like camping.

Talking about camp, how the hell are you richard?

[DodgyAgent]

This thread illustrates quite clearly how idiots from both sides of an argument (Alf with his "whatever is wrong with the world is the USA's fault" to warmongers like NickG who think we should nuke Russia now) have no idea of the realities of situations and instead pick out events, statistics and facts to support their own fanatical agendas.

Whilst it is alarming that the Russians are flexing their muscles their aims are as much to do with internal and international politics rather than setting themselves up as a serious military threat. The Americans know it which is why they are not retaliating to these Russian gestures

Boris berezovsky offers a perspective that is very much in keeping with the views of many professional commentators from the economist to the sunday Times

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2327985.ece

[Churchill]

Well, I should also maybe mention their extensive civil defence and first strike doctrine.

Nope, don't bother.

[richard-af]

Nope, Iron age status and death are completely different.

True, but the point is both = "Goodbye life as we know it" etc.

[Nicky G]

Well, I should also maybe mention their extensive civil defence and first strike doctrine.

[Churchill]

Surely "unacceptable losses" is the same as "we all die, or are reduced to Iron Age status"?

Nope, Iron age status and death are completely different.

[richard-af]

It never had superiority during the Cold War. The entire communist Bloc couldn't have taken on NATO without suffering unacceptable losses. Now due to American disarmament thanks to the false collapse of communism the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the many third world nations affiliated with them have an advantage.

Er, I seem to have found a slight wrinkle in your "logic". From an earlier posting of yours in this Thread:
"Yes, but Russia never believed in MAD, because it is complete nonsense. There's no end of the world even with a full scale nuclear exchange. I could pull out quotes from Russian generals stating just as much, that it's a peculiarity of the western mind to believe there are no winners in a nuclear conflict, if I could be bothered to find them."

Surely "unacceptable losses" is the same as "we all die, or are reduced to Iron Age status"?

[richard-af]

Yes, but Russia never believed in MAD, because it is complete nonsense. There's no end of the world even with a full scale nuclear exchange. I could pull out quotes from Russian generals stating just as much, that it's a peculiarity of the western mind to believe there are no winners in a nuclear conflict, if I could be bothered to find them.

Would it help if the acronym was LOONYTWAT, instead?

[Churchill]

It never had superiority during the Cold War. The entire communist Bloc couldn't have taken on NATO without suffering unacceptable losses. Now due to American disarmament thanks to the false collapse of communism the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the many third world nations affiliated with them have an advantage.

Ah well, you've got to die of something...