Reply to: Murderer welcome to stay in the UK

[wendigo100]

I'm surprised Stephen Lawrence wasn't posthumously convicted of assaulting the bloke's knife-carrying hand by throwing his chest at it.

[daviejones]

You know you cant do that cause you will be infringing his human rights!

Mailman

If it was my family, I would be at the gate waiting for him. Justice would then be served....the old fashioned way!!!

[Mailman]

Surely this guy is a threat to disorder...what after having murdered someone?

If France can flout the EU rules, so can Blighty!

Mailman

[Joe Black]

Is that true? Is there an EU law against deporting anyone between EU countries?

Yes. Under various articles going back many years the principle is that a EU citizen can generally only be deported on grounds of public policy, security and health, e.g. threat of disorder, terrorism, contagious disease etc.

This is reaffirmed under directive 2004/38/EC.

While some may not like such laws, others perhaps (myself included) find it nice to know that they can't be thrown be out of a country simply because their pension may be 10 quid short of the average, or because they happen to get a few parking tickets.

Unfortunately while the UK seems to slavishly follow such rules various other countries seem to give them no more than mere lip service.

[richard-af]

Looks more like a daily mail reader to me

Personally I question the system that lets a murderer out after only 12 years. Anyone giving odds on the time to next offence?

About another 4 minutes.

[Mailman]

So wrong...string him up by the nuts!!!

You know you cant do that cause you will be infringing his human rights!

Mailman

[Ruprect]

He's been in the UK from age 6; did the stabbing at age 15; been in prison up to age 26.
Yes it's possible he came over from Italy as a 6-year-old apprentice murderer, waiting for his chance. But more likely I think, that it was growing up in Britain that turned him into a killer; in which case it wouldn't be fair on the Italians, or him, to deport him there.

Looks more like a daily mail reader to me

Personally I question the system that lets a murderer out after only 12 years. Anyone giving odds on the time to next offence?

[richard-af]

Seems to be quite a few Gruadian readers on here lately

It's Grauniad, idiot.

[ElectricChair]

He's been in the UK from age 6; did the stabbing at age 15; been in prison up to age 26.
Yes it's possible he came over from Italy as a 6-year-old apprentice murderer, waiting for his chance. But more likely I think, that it was growing up in Britain that turned him into a killer; in which case it wouldn't be fair on the Italians, or him, to deport him there.

Is life fair? about time the Italians found out.

[Troll]

Lefty poof.

Seems to be quite a few Gruadian readers on here lately

[richard-af]

He's been in the UK from age 6; did the stabbing at age 15; been in prison up to age 26.
Yes it's possible he came over from Italy as a 6-year-old apprentice murderer, waiting for his chance. But more likely I think, that it was growing up in Britain that turned him into a killer; in which case it wouldn't be fair on the Italians, or him, to deport him there.

Lefty poof.

[thunderlizard]

He's been in the UK from age 6; did the stabbing at age 15; been in prison up to age 26.
Yes it's possible he came over from Italy as a 6-year-old apprentice murderer, waiting for his chance. But more likely I think, that it was growing up in Britain that turned him into a killer; in which case it wouldn't be fair on the Italians, or him, to deport him there.

[wendigo100]

The law is the law. He was an EC citizen who had lived here for 10 years.
End of story. That is what the "Rule of law" means.

As for the law being an ass, that's another story.

Quite. Our Human Rights Act was drafted by New Labour, who have proved time and again that "attention to detail" doesn't extend beyond their expense claims!

[wendigo100]

He is an EU citizen, so one part of the EU can't just deport him to another part of the EU.

Is that true? Is there an EU law against deporting anyone between EU countries?

[richard-af]

Surely his life is only in the UK because he's been in prison here for 11 years?

Good point! Surely being banged-up should mean that the meter stops running for that sort of claim?