Reply to: P&O Ferries goes under (or not)

[SueEllen]

Presumably you get free room and board though

With Covid or norovirus?

[d000hg]

Presumably you get free room and board though

[vetran]

Here it is https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/20...ape-ferry-link

For a long time people thought these shared brand names were useful - but as time goes on, it seems they're not.

It's the same reason you can't log into Virgin Media Wifi on a Virgin Train - they'll tell you "nothing to do with us". If you're not willing to take responsibility for the cockups, or share customer loyalty across brands, should you be allowed to trade on the good name? Or at least, you can't really complain when the consumer confuses you for being the same.

Yeah because you wouldn't want to think they pay their staff as much as £5.50 an hour!

https://www.corpwatch.org/article/sw...om%20customers.

Carnival Cruise staff on UK ships are paid $1.20 (75p) an hour or $400 a month in basic wages, according to new documents seen by the Guardian newspaper. These workers lose their tips, which work out to roughly 15 percent of wages, unless they get at least a 92 percent favorable rating from customers.

P&O ferries should be differentiating themselves from Carnival at least they pay nearly half minimum wage!

[PerfectStorm]

Anyone else seen the new advert from P&O cruises "Our name starts with the same letters but we're nothing to do with them?"

Here it is https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/20...ape-ferry-link

For a long time people thought these shared brand names were useful - but as time goes on, it seems they're not.

It's the same reason you can't log into Virgin Media Wifi on a Virgin Train - they'll tell you "nothing to do with us". If you're not willing to take responsibility for the cockups, or share customer loyalty across brands, should you be allowed to trade on the good name? Or at least, you can't really complain when the consumer confuses you for being the same.

[SueEllen]

the savings keep on piling up, think of the diesel they are saving!

Only 6 more to go!

[vetran]

And another one.

Pride of Kent....

BBC News - P&O: Second ferry detained over safety concerns
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60908750

the savings keep on piling up, think of the diesel they are saving!

[SueEllen]

And another one.

Pride of Kent....

BBC News - P&O: Second ferry detained over safety concerns
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60908750

[jamesbrown]

Herald of Free Disaster Capitalism.

[vetran]

Rapid name change required. That normally does the job, although since P&O ferries are probably thinking along the same lines they'd better check they don't both choose the same new name.

Can I recommend "Payment Offshore?"

[mattster]

Rapid name change required. That normally does the job, although since P&O ferries are probably thinking along the same lines they'd better check they don't both choose the same new name.

[d000hg]

Tough one for them, and they're obviously doing everything they can to distance themselves from the ferry operation - but when your name is literally the same and you are in roughly the same line of business it is going to be hard/impossible to break the connection in people's minds. I wonder what they pay their staff and where they are from?

THis is literally part of their advert. They go to pains to say exactly who their parent company is, etc, etc. The advert reads like someone got pulled to read an emergency script who has no background in media! An "oh tulip" reaction

[mattster]

Anyone else seen the new advert from P&O cruises "Our name starts with the same letters but we're nothing to do with them?"

Tough one for them, and they're obviously doing everything they can to distance themselves from the ferry operation - but when your name is literally the same and you are in roughly the same line of business it is going to be hard/impossible to break the connection in people's minds. I wonder what they pay their staff and where they are from?

[d000hg]

Anyone else seen the new advert from P&O cruises "Our name starts with the same letters but we're nothing to do with them?"

[vetran]

[Paddy]

No experience needed!

Herald of Free Enterprise here we come

https://www.theguardian.com/business...y-ad-for-crews

One of the maritime agencies recruiting workers for P&O Ferries is advertising for crew members, saying no previous experience at sea required.
Union officials warn that P&O Ferries could be jeopardising safety after dismissing 800 crew members and replacing them with workers paid less than the minimum wage. One of the firm’s vessels has been detained at Larne in Northern Ireland for being “unfit to sail” because of concerns over training.

The first requirement for any seaman was a certificate of lifeboat training that takes three days. I do wonder if this is now part of the Tory cutting of red tape