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Previously on "Job boom, prime BBC news."

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  • Hobosapien
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    Originally posted by Uncle Albert View Post
    That's just Amazon allowing Morrisons to sell via their systems which is a win win for Amazon as they don't have to do much. The Amazon Fresh system is all automated and is already very quick. A couple of permies at client co order bits for their lunch at around 9 AM and they arrive by 12.
    It would be interesting to see how they are doing it. Unlikely to be automated picking off loose veg so maybe they require suppliers to ship their stuff in automated friendly packaging. e.g. a bunch of bananas in the usual massive Amazon cardboard box so the automated system just picks a box as normal.

    I expect the reality is they use humans in the warehouse to pick the fresh stuff just like they do for bagged items such as a usb cable.
    Last edited by Hobosapien; 25 August 2020, 09:02.

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  • Uncle Albert
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    Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Yet Amazon are going to use the same process as Tesco with their new partnership with Morrisons.

    Amazon and Morrisons launch grocery delivery service - how it works | Gazette

    Seems it's more efficient to pick from the customer end of the process than try to set it up mid-route. Be sure if there was a significant saving to be had by setting up a different process for home deliveries they would have done that instead of employing people.

    As for the wider discussion, all jobs will increasingly be with just a few mega companies. Amazon for everything consumer, Tesco et all for food, until Amazon dominate that too, all delivery vehicles automated until Amazon dominate that too with their drones and robo trucks (perhaps in parnership with Tesla when Musk's SpaceX destroys Blue Origin in the new space race), ...

    All roads are leading the same place. For the rest of us there will be universal basic income in the form of furlough forever or at least until they start calling it a pension.

    You can either wait for your job to be taken by the inevitable unstoppable march of 'progress' or be one of the people creating the new tech and processes around it. AI aka machine learning aka statistical analysis and prediction isn't going to be creating and maintaining all that anytime soon. For that they'll need contractors with the right skills.
    That's just Amazon allowing Morrisons to sell via their systems which is a win win for Amazon as they don't have to do much. The Amazon Fresh system is all automated and is already very quick. A couple of permies at client co order bits for their lunch at around 9 AM and they arrive by 12.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Yet Amazon are going to use the same process as Tesco with their new partnership with Morrisons.

    Amazon and Morrisons launch grocery delivery service - how it works | Gazette

    Seems it's more efficient to pick from the customer end of the process than try to set it up mid-route. Be sure if there was a significant saving to be had by setting up a different process for home deliveries they would have done that instead of employing people.

    As for the wider discussion, all jobs will increasingly be with just a few mega companies. Amazon for everything consumer, Tesco et all for food, until Amazon dominate that too, all delivery vehicles automated until Amazon dominate that too with their drones and robo trucks (perhaps in parnership with Tesla when Musk's SpaceX destroys Blue Origin in the new space race), ...

    All roads are leading the same place. For the rest of us there will be universal basic income in the form of furlough forever or at least until they start calling it a pension.

    You can either wait for your job to be taken by the inevitable unstoppable march of 'progress' or be one of the people creating the new tech and processes around it. AI aka machine learning aka statistical analysis and prediction isn't going to be creating and maintaining all that anytime soon. For that they'll need contractors with the right skills.
    The Old Etonians will take care of the ordinary man and woman.

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  • GigiBronz
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    Think they might be creating jobs just to tire the population up so they don't end up on the streets putting guillotines. But maybe it's just me...

    you can't get a decent income nor be physically able to do anything after a 8h shift chasing products down the shelves.
    Just another bigger... hamster-wheel

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  • Hobosapien
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    Originally posted by Uncle Albert View Post
    They are clueless. They are hiring people to 'pick' online orders from the shelves of existing supermarkets when Amazon and Ocado have the entire process automated out of massive warehouses with virtually no staff.
    Yet Amazon are going to use the same process as Tesco with their new partnership with Morrisons.

    Amazon and Morrisons launch grocery delivery service - how it works | Gazette

    Seems it's more efficient to pick from the customer end of the process than try to set it up mid-route. Be sure if there was a significant saving to be had by setting up a different process for home deliveries they would have done that instead of employing people.

    As for the wider discussion, all jobs will increasingly be with just a few mega companies. Amazon for everything consumer, Tesco et all for food, until Amazon dominate that too, all delivery vehicles automated until Amazon dominate that too with their drones and robo trucks (perhaps in parnership with Tesla when Musk's SpaceX destroys Blue Origin in the new space race), ...

    All roads are leading the same place. For the rest of us there will be universal basic income in the form of furlough forever or at least until they start calling it a pension.

    You can either wait for your job to be taken by the inevitable unstoppable march of 'progress' or be one of the people creating the new tech and processes around it. AI aka machine learning aka statistical analysis and prediction isn't going to be creating and maintaining all that anytime soon. For that they'll need contractors with the right skills.

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  • Uncle Albert
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    They are clueless. They are hiring people to 'pick' online orders from the shelves of existing supermarkets when Amazon and Ocado have the entire process automated out of massive warehouses with virtually no staff.

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  • GigiBronz
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Better than fruit picking.
    not only that they are converting their roles contracts (which potentially shouldn't have been temporary in the first place...? )

    but I guess, it's not that different, fruit picking in the nature. fresh air. taking sun, some vitamin D.
    I would presume is better than delivering stellas to old farts that ask you "where are you from?"

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by GigiBronz View Post
    Probably you've seen the news... job boom, tesco rescruiting 16000 permanent employees, from previous temporary staff...

    BBC prime news, Tesco jobs

    Everyone getting excited about this?
    Better than fruit picking.

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  • GigiBronz
    started a topic Job boom, prime BBC news.

    Job boom, prime BBC news.

    Probably you've seen the news... job boom, tesco rescruiting 16000 permanent employees, from previous temporary staff...

    BBC prime news, Tesco jobs

    Everyone getting excited about this?
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