Reply to: Faith in the country again!

[Lucy]

No, I am not Dutch.

[Sysman]

My problem with Mr Bragg is his use of celebrity to promote his twatty politics, I just cannot support someone who has been an instrument of horrific governments.

I used to be a fan of U2, and I still like their music, I just can't bear Bono's bleating. (Mr I have a personal fortune inexcess of £250M, and YOU should be giving to charity, whilst I move my business out of Ireland to save tax) Bono = Bollockbrain.

As someone who has lived in Africa, I can tell you that an awful of charity money gets squandered. Meanwhile the leaders of many countries there have vast reserves of personal wealth (read billions apiece), normally parked abroad for the rainy day when there's a coup.

PS. Referring to a couple of earlier posts, you're not Dutch by any chance?Feel free to PM me on that if you don't want to answer publicly.

PPS. I never even liked U2's music. Thinking back to the original Live Aid concert, there were some fans holding a large U2 banner up close to the stage, cameras on them for the full event. I felt then that U2 had probably paid someone to do that for free publicity out of a charitable event.

Sysman in cynical mode

[DimPrawn]

What, the best "ramblings of an idiot" thread?

[wendigo100]

Has anyone voted for this as their "most entertaining thread"?

[ratewhore]

I doubt that anyone who commits a crime, seriously believes they will get caught.

Going to prison is not a choice.

nothing to see here

[Bagpuss]

Not a support of communism but IMHO we don't live under democracy in this country, and any ruling elite act pretty much the same be it under communism, capitalism or mixed

[SallyAnne]

My god you really are into communism in a big way aren't you SA

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SallyAnne]

*Lucy rips out own hair*

Im just saying, most people dont even bother voting! And dont really care whats dished out to them anyway.

again, I'm not saying this is what I want to happen to us, or to anywhee else in the world, but I could see a time when people may choose to live in such a society.

Thats all

[Churchill]

SallyAnne is Chico and I claim my crisp unsullied, non-communist fiver!

[PerlOfWisdom]

And if you're talking about political freedom...well I'd like to know how many people in this country alone would even care if they lost that right!

Those who believe that their 1/40,000,000th say in which one of 2 people decides how the country should be run will make a difference.

[Ardesco]

And if you're talking about political freedom...well I'd like to know how many people in this country alone would even care if they lost that right!

My god you really are into communism in a big way aren't you SA

[Lucy]

And if you're talking about political freedom...well I'd like to know how many people in this country alone would even care if they lost that right!

*Lucy rips out own hair*

[Lucy]

No, but committing the crime is a choice isn't it?

And they're choosing to possibly give up their freedom for a return which they see as a more beneficial option.

I doubt that anyone who commits a crime, seriously believes they will get caught.

Going to prison is not a choice.

[SallyAnne]

That isn't what I meant.

(Since when is going to prison a choice ?)

This might help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_%28political%29

And if you're talking about political freedom...well I'd like to know how many people in this country alone would even care if they lost that right!

[SallyAnne]

That isn't what I meant.

(Since when is going to prison a choice ?)

This might help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_%28political%29

No, but committing the crime is a choice isn't it?

And they're choosing to possibly give up their freedom for a return which they see as a more beneficial option.