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Previously on "Are the police telling the truth for once?"

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by fatboyslim View Post
    yes, I saw the interview of the retired guy, he seems to hold a grudge against Mr Green, but I wont be surprised if he is driven by some political belief, not against a single person(that tories are evil, and the investigation will be suppressed).
    We had plebgate earlier and now this, looks like its a unionised force with underlying bias against current regime.
    He may just think The RT Hon Green is complete scum with nothing political about it.

    There are rumours all over Westminster of who is "handy" and if you know people who work there - which the police probably do - you would hear these rumours.

    Also remember the police do get pressurised on who they can't arrest, which pissed them off.

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  • fatboyslim
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    The police officers involved in leaking information are retired. Many current officers including the head of the Met are pissed off with them and want them prosecuted.
    yes, I saw the interview of the retired guy, he seems to hold a grudge against Mr Green, but I wont be surprised if he is driven by some political belief, not against a single person(that tories are evil, and the investigation will be suppressed).
    We had plebgate earlier and now this, looks like its a unionised force with underlying bias against current regime.
    Last edited by fatboyslim; 23 December 2017, 12:25.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by fatboyslim View Post
    Both Mr Green and the police force look terrible after this disclosure.
    First of all, what was the need to go after an opposition MP, look for stuff in his laptop? Was there any suspicion of wrongdoing?
    And disclosing it to media in the manner it was done, does look like politicization of the force.
    The police officers involved in leaking information are retired. Many current officers including the head of the Met are pissed off with them and want them prosecuted.

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  • fatboyslim
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    Both Mr Green and the police force look terrible after this disclosure.
    First of all, what was the need to go after an opposition MP, look for stuff in his laptop? Was there any suspicion of wrongdoing?
    And disclosing it to media in the manner it was done, does look like politicization of the force.

    As to Mr Green's sacking, I think PM took his inappropriate behaviour(to a journalist, quite possibly others) into account, not merely watching porn on work laptop.

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Is that like the Pirate Code? Do they have the Right of Parlez? Or are they more guidelines than an actual code?
    It's an absolute rule that ministers are always truthful, even about things that don't actually matter a damn to the real world. That's why he's gone.

    But as has been said already, the reasons behind why he was untruthful are deep and complex and absolutely nothing to do with porn on official PCs. The whole thing stinks and has done far more harm than good. If certain ex-coppers get smacked - as seems likely - and things that are irrelevant to the case in hand are kept properly confidential in future - as seems a little less likely - then that would be a good thing.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    True, but not all politicians have to obey the Ministerial Code.
    Is that like the Pirate Code? Do they have the Right of Parlez? Or are they more guidelines than an actual code?

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by Antman View Post
    Just why were the police busting his office in the first place again?
    To investigate the leaking of official material from the Home Office to which he was given access, but the raid was widely criticised at the time and later by an inquiry.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    If politicians were sacked for being liars, we'd have an empty House of Commons.
    True, but not all politicians have to obey the Ministerial Code.

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  • Antman
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    Just why were the police busting his office in the first place again?

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  • xoggoth
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    Pity the policemen who revealed this are not prosecuted. Totally wrong in principle that police should reveal anything about any case unless it relates to the crime being investigated. After that and the recent failures to provide relevant evidence in rape cases I think I trust the bastards even less than politicians.

    And lawyers, dentists etc.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    Yes, and he still denies having looked at it. On two specific occasions, he lied about not being aware that the police had discovered porn on his work computer. That alone is why he’s gone.
    If politicians were sacked for being liars, we'd have an empty House of Commons.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    The real issue is he lied.

    If he admitted he looked at porn and came out with tulip about being a red-blooded male he would still be in position.
    Yes, and he still denies having looked at it. On two specific occasions, he lied about not being aware that the police had discovered porn on his work computer. That alone is why he’s gone.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    The real issue is he lied.

    If he admitted he looked at porn and came out with tulip about being a red-blooded male he would still be in position.
    Agreed. However I am not sure that p0rn on a work computer should not be a sackable offence.

    And nothing wrong with women looking at p0rn too.....

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    "Asked to resign" - semantics - jumped before he was pushed.

    Clearly there are fortunately rules in play to stop MPs surfing smut at work. If it was found on his personal computer, I'd have no problem with him carrying on but that's not the case so he has to go.
    The real issue is he lied.

    If he admitted he looked at porn and came out with tulip about being a red-blooded male he would still be in position.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Shame it took so long.

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